r/HistoryAnecdotes • • Mar 10 '21

Announcement Added two new rules: Please read below.

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Hello everyone! So there have been a lot of low effort YouTube video links lately, and a few article links as well.

That's all well and good sometimes, but overall it promotes low effort content, spamming, and self-promotion. So we now have two new rules.

  • No more video links. Sorry! I did add an AutoModerator page for this, but I'm new, so if you notice that it isn't working, please do let the mod team know. I'll leave existing posts alone.

  • When linking articles/Web pages, you have to post in the comments section the relevant passage highlighting the anecdote. If you can't find the anecdote, then it probably broke Rule 1 anyway.

Hope all is well! As always, I encourage feedback!


r/HistoryAnecdotes • • 3h ago

The US bought Alaska for $7.2 million in 1867. Congress still hadn’t paid Russia a single dollar when the transfer ceremony happened.

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The flag went up at Sitka on October 18, 1867. Russian soldiers handed the territory to American troops in a ceremony on a rocky hill overlooking the harbor. Alaska was now American. The only problem was that the United States hadn’t actually paid for it yet.

That detail tends to get left out of the standard story.

The Senate had ratified the treaty in April 1867 by 37 to 2, which sounds overwhelming until you remember that the Senate approves treaties but the House appropriates money, and the House was considerably less enthusiastic. Congress was consumed by Andrew Johnson’s impeachment proceedings, some representatives resented being expected to fund an agreement negotiated without them, and others just thought buying a frozen territory for $7.2 million was a bad deal. Russia had already surrendered Alaska and was waiting for a check that wasn’t coming.

By 1868, Russian minister de Stoeckl was so desperate to secure the appropriation that he hired lobbyists, paid a former Treasury Secretary $20,000 in gold to work the halls of Congress, and apparently distributed money to journalists and political intermediaries in amounts that were never fully accounted for. Congress eventually passed the appropriation in July 1868. When historians later reconstructed where the $7.2 million actually went, roughly $200,000 was unaccounted for in ways that suggested payments to congressmen, lobbyists, and press contacts. The House investigation in December 1868 produced contradictory testimony, incomplete documentation, and no conclusive findings because de Stoeckl had already left for Russia.

The financial scandal is the part that deserves more attention than it gets, because it sits directly alongside one of the more interesting political partnerships of the era.

Seward negotiated the purchase. Getting it through Congress required Charles Sumner, which was not obvious at the time. Sumner was chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and one of Johnson’s most bitter opponents during Reconstruction. Seward was Johnson’s Secretary of State. The two men had sharply different visions of what America should look like after the Civil War and were on opposite sides of nearly every major domestic fight of the period.

When Seward summoned Sumner to his house on March 29, 1867 to tell him about the impending agreement, Sumner didn’t immediately support it. He went home and spent weeks doing what almost nobody else in Washington had bothered to do: actually study Alaska. He read more than a hundred books, consulted the Smithsonian, examined maps, geographic reports, and travel narratives. His roughly three-hour Senate address defending the treaty drew on that research and transformed the debate. He also proposed replacing the name Russian America with Alaska, derived from an Unangax̂ word for the mainland.

The territory he was describing was not uninhabited wilderness. Alaska Native peoples including the Tlingit, Haida, Unangax̂, Yup’ik, and Iñupiat had lived there for generations. The treaty offered certain Russian inhabitants a path to American citizenship while explicitly excluding what it called “uncivilized native tribes.” Neither Russia nor the United States consulted the people who actually lived there about the transaction. That part of the story rarely gets the same attention as whether Seward overpaid.

Seward’s vision for Alaska was commercially and strategically coherent even if most of his contemporaries couldn’t see it. He believed America’s future ran through the Pacific, that Alaska’s coastline and geographic position mattered beyond its immediate economic output, and that a territory’s value at the moment of purchase was a poor measure of what it might become. Gold discoveries in the 1890s, the strategic importance during World War II and the Cold War, and statehood in 1959 all bore him out.

Whether the process that got Congress to pay for it was clean is a different question with a less satisfying answer.

The full story of the Alaska purchase, the negotiation, the Sitka ceremony, and what came after is at virtualwayback.com/alaska-transfer-experience where you can also talk directly to Seward about the deal he spent years defending. Please let us know what you think after you talk with them.

The thing worth actually debating: Seward was right about Alaska’s long-term value but the appropriation may have been secured partly through bribery. Does the outcome change how you evaluate the process, or are those two things entirely separate judgments?


r/HistoryAnecdotes • • 7h ago

Nanjing Massacre survivor describing what Japanese solders did to her family. She was 7 at the time.

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r/HistoryAnecdotes • • 12h ago

American The right hand of the Statue of Liberty in 1876. It was subsequently exhibited in New York’s Madison Square Park until 1882 to raise funds for the statue's construction. Afterward, the hand was returned to France to be joined with the rest of the statue.

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r/HistoryAnecdotes • • 16h ago

Middle Eastern TIL that ancient animal engravings in Saudi Arabia's Nefud Desert are only visible for about 90 minutes each morning, when the rising sun illuminates the rock at just the right angle.

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r/HistoryAnecdotes • • 1d ago

TIL that President George H. W. Bush loved eating at the Clam Shack nearby Taintown, ME and made it famous through his fondness for its clams.

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r/HistoryAnecdotes • • 19h ago

This kid's family propably would have lived in a commieblock not a mud house

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in the other subreddit i have a normal pic with him with his grandma and oldest siblings including what might be a commieblock, but anyhumanever often vibecodes its pics

anyhumanever is often generated by ai and not always accurate lel but not fully vibecoded either

i couldnt add an image but this is the og script

In 1945 CE, Baimukhamed was born in Central Asia, near Burunday. His town held about 5,000 people. He was the fifth of the family's five children. He was born into the famine of 1939-1945 in the Soviet Union. The household that would have raised him followed Islam. Baimukhamed died of smallpox at 5 months. After his death, he was washed, wrapped in a shroud and buried within a day, as for any age.


r/HistoryAnecdotes • • 2d ago

The British wrote 'Yankee Doodle' to mock American colonists - so they made it their anthem

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During the French and Indian War, British officers looked down on the colonial troops fighting beside them. Around 1755, a British army surgeon - Dr. Richard Shuckburgh is the name usually attached - penned verses ridiculing the Americans as "Yankee Doodles": backward fools.

The insults were specific. "Yankee" may come from the Dutch "Janke," or "Little Jan" - a mocking name for the colonists, though the exact origin is still debated. "Doodle" meant a fool or simpleton. And the famous line about sticking a feather in his cap and calling it macaroni? "Macaroni" was slang for a fop - a man obsessed with high European fashion. The joke was that an American could stick a feather in his cap and think himself stylish, but he would never pull it off.

Then the joke flipped. The colonists took the song and sang it themselves, louder than the British did. During the Revolution it became an anthem of defiance - the tune American bands played back at the redcoats, and the one a band famously played at the British surrender at Saratoga in 1777. Later legend tied the tune to the Yorktown surrender too, though historians treat that version as a good story rather than a documented fact.

An insult, turned into a national song.

Sources: Wikipedia, "Yankee Doodle"; Mount Vernon Colonial Music Institute, "A March Allegedly Played at Yorktown" (on the surrender-tune legend); Kennedy Center arts education archive, "The Story Behind the Song: Yankee Doodle."

I turn stories like this into short audio stories - @sciophonic on IG if you want more.


r/HistoryAnecdotes • • 2d ago

World Wars Letter signed by Hitler and Chamberlain, September 1938 — “Never to go to war with one another again”

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r/HistoryAnecdotes • • 3d ago

American Excerpt from "Famous for 15 Minutes" by Ultra Violet

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‘Famous for 15 Minutes’ was published in 1988, and this excerpt describes an artistic creation by Andy Warhol in 1964.


r/HistoryAnecdotes • • 4d ago

American At the funeral of American President Andrew Jackson in 1845, his pet parrot, Poll, was removed from the ceremony because it began swearing loudly.

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r/HistoryAnecdotes • • 3d ago

Family members of 2 notorious fascist leaders-- Romano Floriani Mussolini and Al-Saadi Gaddafi-- have gone on to play professional soccer. Mussolini's great-grandson currently plays in Italy's Serie A.

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r/HistoryAnecdotes • • 3d ago

Modern After the 1911 Chinese Revolution overthrew imperial rule, Yuan Shikai became president of the new republic - then tried to make himself emperor.

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r/HistoryAnecdotes • • 3d ago

Convair Model 118 (also known as the ConvairCar), an experimental roadable aircraft or flying car from 1947, the project was canceled after a test flight made an emergency landing due to running out of fuel because of a faulty fuel gauge reading

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r/HistoryAnecdotes • • 4d ago

The farmer and his sons. Ryazan Province , Kasimovsky county, village of Grand Peksely, Russian Empire, 1910, a well-known historical snapshot reflecting the simple, difficult, and subsistence-oriented rural life of Russian peasants shortly before the upheaval of World War I and revolution

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r/HistoryAnecdotes • • 4d ago

Debunked! In 1944, during a meeting with his generals, Hitler asked his adjutant Fritz Darges to dispose of a fly that had begun buzzing around the room. Darges joked that being airborne, it should be swatted by someone in the Luftwaffe. Hitler had him fired on the spot and transferred to the Eastern front

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r/HistoryAnecdotes • • 4d ago

TIL the exposure required for Nicéphore Niépce's earliest surviving photograph may have lasted eight hours or longer. Niépce's View from the Window at Le Gras, made around 1826–1827, required an exceptionally long exposure using an early photographic process.

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r/HistoryAnecdotes • • 5d ago

Classical The Sphinx of Giza, partly covered in sand, in 1851. In 1851, part of the Sphinx’s beard was already in the British Museum, donated in 1818 by Italian excavator Giovanni Battista Caviglia.

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r/HistoryAnecdotes • • 5d ago

Excerpt from "Groucho And Me" by Groucho Marx.

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This excerpt is when Groucho first encountered a comedian by the name of Charlie Chaplin, probably around 1913.


r/HistoryAnecdotes • • 5d ago

World Wars 7 Chance Events That Shaped History

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r/HistoryAnecdotes • • 5d ago

Man Shoots and Kills Teen Son Because He Wouldn’t Get Out of Bed (1903)

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r/HistoryAnecdotes • • 6d ago

Benedict Arnold helped save the American Revolution twice. Then he tried to destroy it.

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On October 13, 1776, Benedict Arnold ran his remaining ships aground on the eastern shore of Lake Champlain, set them on fire, and led his surviving men into the woods. By any conventional measure it was a defeat. He had lost most of his fleet over two days of fighting against a British force that outgunned him completely. What he had actually accomplished was something the history books take a while to explain properly.

The British had spent most of that summer building a fleet powerful enough to control Lake Champlain and advance south toward Fort Ticonderoga. Arnold understood that he couldn’t beat them in a straight fight, so he didn’t try to. He positioned his ships behind Valcour Island to force the British into restricted waters where their superior firepower mattered less, fought them hard enough to damage both sides, then slipped most of his fleet past them in the dark and made them chase him south for two more days before the end came. By the time it was over, the campaigning season was effectively finished. The British commander Guy Carleton looked at his situation, looked at the calendar, and decided not to advance against Ticonderoga before winter.

That decision gave the Americans a year.

In 1777, when the British tried again under Burgoyne, they ran into an American army that had spent the winter recovering and reorganizing. Burgoyne surrendered at Saratoga in October. France, which had been secretly supplying the Americans for months while waiting to see whether the rebellion could actually survive, signed a formal military alliance in February 1778. That alliance brought the naval power that would eventually make British defeat possible.

The chain runs directly back to Arnold running his ships aground in a bay that would eventually carry his name. He didn’t win at Valcour Island. He bought time. And the time turned out to be worth everything.

Then at Saratoga itself, he was there again.

By that point Arnold and his commanding general Horatio Gates genuinely hated each other. Arnold believed his leadership at the first battle of Saratoga on September 19 had been decisive and that Gates had deliberately left his name out of the official report. He wasn’t entirely wrong about either thing. Gates relieved him of command. Arnold stayed in camp without a formal role while the campaign continued around him.

On October 7, during the second battle, Arnold rode onto the field anyway. Nobody had authorized it. He didn’t have a command. He just showed up and started directing troops, helping overwhelm critical British positions before taking a musket ball in the same left leg that had been wounded at Quebec two years earlier. He spent the rest of the battle lying in the dirt while the fighting finished around him.

Ten days later Burgoyne surrendered.

There is a monument at Saratoga National Historical Park that commemorates the leg of an American general wounded during the battle. It doesn’t say his name.

To understand how Arnold got from October 1776 to September 1780, when he agreed to hand West Point to the British, you have to take the grievances seriously without excusing what he did with them.

He was passed over for promotion to major general in February 1777 while five officers with less distinguished records were elevated above him. For an eighteenth century officer this wasn’t a bureaucratic irritation. Rank was how the world measured your worth and your honour, and Arnold took the slight as a personal declaration that Congress didn’t respect what he had done. Washington eventually got him the rank, but the damage to how Arnold understood his relationship with the cause he was fighting for had already been done.

After Saratoga he was given command of Philadelphia, which was a political minefield. The city was full of Loyalists, returning Patriots, commercial disputes, and accusations flying in every direction. Arnold lived expensively, got involved in some commercial activities that attracted serious scrutiny, and accumulated enemies faster than he accumulated money. Some of the accusations against him were politically motivated. Some weren’t. A court-martial in 1779 found him guilty on two relatively minor charges and Washington issued a formal reprimand, carefully worded to acknowledge his earlier service while making clear the conduct had been unacceptable.

For Arnold it was one more entry in a growing ledger of humiliations. He had nearly died twice for the Revolution. He had helped save it at moments when it genuinely needed saving. And the country he had bled for was nickel-and-diming him in front of a court-martial while men who had done far less collected their promotions and their reputations.

He had also by this point married Peggy Shippen, whose family had Loyalist connections and whose social circle included Major John André, the British officer who would become Arnold’s contact in the conspiracy.

By May 1779 Arnold was already secretly communicating with the British. The treason wasn’t a sudden decision made in anger after the court-martial. It developed over more than a year while he was still serving as an American commander, still accepting Washington’s trust, still being given more responsibility. In 1780, Washington gave him command of West Point.

Arnold had already agreed to hand it over.

The plot unraveled on September 23 when André was captured returning to British lines with documents hidden in his boot. When Arnold learned the conspiracy had been discovered two days later, he fled to the British warship sitting in the Hudson and left his wife and infant son behind. He wrote to Washington asking him to take care of Peggy. Washington did.

André was hanged as a spy. Arnold was commissioned as a British general and spent the rest of the war leading raids against Americans, including a campaign through Connecticut that burned his own hometown of New London.

The question his story keeps forcing is what to do with the first part when you know how it ends. The boot monument at Saratoga is one answer: honor the leg without naming the man. It’s awkward and a little strange and also probably the most honest the historical record can get about someone whose best moments and worst moments are equally real and equally consequential.

Arnold didn’t betray the Revolution because he was secretly a coward or always a villain. He betrayed it because he was a man with extraordinary pride who became convinced that the cause he had nearly died for multiple times had decided he didn’t matter. Whether that’s true in any meaningful sense, whether Congress and Gates and the court-martial actually wronged him badly enough to justify what he did, is a question the evidence doesn’t answer cleanly.

What the evidence does answer is that without him, the Revolution’s most important year looks very different. The delay at Valcour Island, the relief of Fort Stanwix, the fighting at Freeman’s Farm, the assault on the Breymann Redoubt. Remove Arnold from 1776 and 1777 and Saratoga becomes less certain. Make Saratoga less certain and the French alliance becomes less certain. Make the French alliance less certain and you’re in genuinely different territory about how this ends.

America’s most notorious traitor was also one of the people most responsible for the fact that there was an America to betray.

You can talk directly to Benedict Arnold on Virtual Wayback and hear how he understood his own choices, both the ones that helped save the Revolution and the one that didn’t. https://virtualwayback.com/blog/benedict-arnold-and-his-impact


r/HistoryAnecdotes • • 7d ago

Modern 100 years of evolution in one photo

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r/HistoryAnecdotes • • 6d ago

American The story of the Egyptian princess and the Scottish and the Southern Confederate flags !

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I hope you like this post, my sincere regards from Egypt …

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In the year 1320 AD, while Scotland was fighting a war of existence against England, the nobles of Scotland stood before Pope John XXII, carrying a document known as the “Declaration of Arbroath.” The declaration was not merely a demand for independence, but a defense of a nation seeking the legitimacy of its existence in the depths of history. For these nobles realized that a people who can prove that they have an ancient past can demand that they have an independent future.

And here begins one of the strangest tales in European history, the tale of an Egyptian princess called “Scota” or “Scotia,” whose Scottish and Irish narratives say that she was the daughter of an Egyptian pharaoh, and that she became the symbolic mother of an entire nation; indeed, the name of Scotland itself was derived, according to the legend, from her name.

Before Scota entered Scottish history, she was present in Irish memory for centuries. In the “Book of Invasions of Ireland,” one of the most important Irish texts of the Middle Ages, “Scota” appears as the daughter of an Egyptian pharaoh and the mother of the legendary ancestor of the Gaelic peoples (and not the Gauls from Gaul).

The narrative did not stop at that, but mixed the Egyptian lineage with the biblical heritage to grant this legendary origin sanctity and solidity, linking Scota to the story of the Egyptian pharaoh who was contemporary with the Prophet Moses, and making her departure from Egypt an extension of the Exodus of the Israelites.

The historian Edward Cowan believes that the first known appearance of Scota in literature dates back to the twelfth century AD. From Ireland the tale moved to Scotland, where its historians adopted it in the fourteenth century, so that it gradually turned from a myth about origins into part of the historical narrative of the Scottish nation.

In the 1440s, the Scottish historian Walter Bower was writing in Inchcolm Abbey, on a small island in the Firth of Forth, his encyclopedia “The Scottish History,” one of the most important historical works in Scotland during the Middle Ages. Bower made Scota the starting point in the history of Scotland; for she, according to his account, was the daughter of an Egyptian pharaoh, left Egypt with her husband, then their descendants moved across the Iberian Peninsula to Ireland, before crossing to the west coast of Scotland.

In the “Scotichronicon,” popular legend linked the origin of the Scots to Egypt, where it is said that Scota was the daughter of Pharaoh “Cheneres,” and that her descendants from her husband “Gaythelos” were the ones who carried the name “Scots” in honor of her.

Some narratives see that she has a relationship with Tutankhamun, describing her as his half-sister, as some sources mention that she was the daughter of Akhenaten and Nefertiti, and that she fled Egypt after a disagreement with her family.

Researchers such as David Ellis believe that she is in fact Ankhesenamun, the wife of Tutankhamun and the daughter of Akhenaten and Nefertiti, basing this on texts attributed to the Egyptian historian Manetho. After the death of Tutankhamun, Ankhesenamun married Pharaoh Ay, who is likely to be the father of Tutankhamun, then he was forced into exile with his court due to religious conflicts, so they fled together from Egypt. The narrative indicates that they crossed the Mediterranean with a thousand of their followers, and arrived first in Spain, where their descendants lived for several generations, then later moved to Ireland and from there to Scotland.

Scota was not alone in carrying Egyptian history to Scotland; she also carried with her a mysterious stone known as the “Stone of Destiny” or the “Stone of Scone.” The legend indicates that Scota carried the stone with her from Egypt to Ireland, then it later reached Scotland to become a symbol of the legitimacy of kings. This stone was used in the coronation of Scottish kings, and remained a sacred symbol in Scottish history for long centuries, until it was transferred to England in 1296 by King Edward I, before being returned to Scotland in 1996 after a decision by the British government.

But the symbol most associated with the name of Scotland is the “St. Andrew’s Cross” (Saltire), which is a white diagonal cross in the shape of an X on a blue background.

This flag is linked to the legend of St. Andrew, the patron saint of Scotland, who was martyred on a diagonal cross of this shape. The legend says that this cross appeared in the sky before a decisive battle in which the Scots defeated the English, so they took it as their emblem.

The history of this flag goes back to ancient times, as records indicate that the oldest known use of it as a national symbol representing Scotland dates back to 1286, when it appeared on the seal of the “Guardians of Scotland.” It is believed that the Battle of Athelstaneford in 832 AD was the one that witnessed the birth of this symbol, when King Angus Mac Fergus saw a formation of clouds in the shape of a white cross in the blue sky, so he vowed to make St. Andrew the patron saint of Scotland if he won, and he did indeed win.

But the relationship between Scota and the Scottish flag is deeper than just the legend of St. Andrew. The name “Scota” itself was linked to the Scottish people, who were known as “Scots,” and from it the name “Scotland” was derived.

In the mid-nineteenth century, the United States of America was on the brink of a destructive civil war. In 1861, eleven southern states declared their secession from the federal Union, and formed what was known as the “Confederate States of America,” in rejection of the attempts of the central federal government to abolish the system of slavery, which was the backbone of the agricultural economy of the South, in addition to other reasons.

The Confederacy needed symbols to unite its ranks, so several flags appeared during the war years, but the flag that became associated with it in the collective memory is the “Confederate Battle Flag,” also known as the “Southern Cross,” which is a red flag centered by a blue diagonal cross studded with white stars. It was approved by the President of the Southern Confederacy, Jefferson Davis, and was designed by William Porcher Miles, one of the aides of the Confederate General P. G. T. Beauregard, after the First Battle of Manassas (Bull Run), in which similar flags almost caused a military disaster because of the confusion between the Union flag and the Confederate flag.

And here begins the exciting intersection between Scotland and the Confederate flag. The blue diagonal cross that centers the Confederate flag is not just a random design, but is directly inspired by the “Scottish Saltire.”

Arthur L. Rogers, the designer of the final version of the Confederate flag, stated that the flag was based on the Scottish Saltire, indicating that it symbolizes the “basic origins of the Confederate people,” with the diagonal cross of the Scottish flag and the red stripe from the flag of France. Perhaps this indicates that the sons of the southern states were fighting the northern states whose colonies were called New England, that is, New England!

It is said that this design found its way to America through Nova Scotia, one of the Canadian provinces located on the eastern coast, where the Scots emigrated to the southern American states carrying with them their veneration for Princess Scota and for St. Andrew.

The Confederate flag, with its diagonal cross and white stars, reflected the Scottish origin of many of the inhabitants of the American South, whose ancestors had emigrated from Scotland and Ireland to the United States in previous centuries.

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r/HistoryAnecdotes • • 6d ago

La Guerra Civile in Francia

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