Trump recently stated he’d direct the DOJ to settle Camp Lejeune claims if the GOP wins the midterms, adding: “If we don’t win, there’s no money.” Question: To the US Veterans, what are your thoughts on a president tying Camp Lejeune settlement payouts directly to midterm election outcomes?

[u/batty_prime]

[u/InsideGrandiose7251]

politics a side these claims are legitimate why should the outcome of an election determine when families get justice

[u/oxnardmontalvo7 → u/InsideGrandiose7251]

It’s a hollow bargaining chip at the expense of veterans. Thoroughly disgusting and indicative of DTs view of what people are worth

[u/bala_means_bullet → u/oxnardmontalvo7]

And veterans (not all of them) STILL vote for and support this POS.

Edit: clarification.

[u/Capable_Maintenance1 → u/bala_means_bullet]

My Vietnam veteran father completely sides with him and I'll never understand it.
"Well he gets it done"
No, Dad, he really doesn't.

[u/batty_prime → u/Capable_Maintenance1]

My dad was a Vietnam vet as well who passed before Trump’s first term. He was diehard Republican but also honor-bound to the US Constitution, rule of law, and check & balances.

I am kind of thankful that he passed before Trump so that I didn’t have to potentially witness my father fall down this Trump rabbit hole. I know that my dad’s ethical code would be completely contradictory to MAGA. But then again people I would consider sane, moral, intelligent, virtuous people have fallen into the MAGA fold.

So I’m glad I didn’t have see my dad tarnish my image of him.

[u/impendingwardrobe → u/batty_prime]

My dad is a more recent veteran, a career Marine. He fits you're description of your dad to a T.

The last time I allowed him to talk politics with me was when the audio clip of Trump bragging about sexually assaulting beauty contestants surfaced.

He said it was "Just locker room talk."

I asked if he and his friends talked about women that way in the locker room.

He was deeply offended. Of course they would never do that!

I said, "So you're not going to vote for him?"

He was deeply offended.

Because voting for Trump was the only moral option.

You're right, watching him lose his morality - or realizing it's possible he never had any to begin with - has been really painful.

[u/batty_prime → u/impendingwardrobe]

Losing faith in your hero is the worst. I’m not going to get into it, but I know how you feel.

[u/impendingwardrobe → u/batty_prime]

We've never been close, but I at least wanted to believe that he had the moral backbone he always claimed to have.

[u/SoVerySick314159 → u/impendingwardrobe]

Because voting for Trump was the only moral option.

See, that's what the RW media does - they not only build up their people and neglect to mention/play down unfortunate facts, they literally demonize the democrats. Many times I've heard them refer to liberals as evil & demonic. They say that enough without anyone to say, "Hey, hold up there. . . ", people start to accept it.

From there, well, what are you gonna do? Even if you don't think the republicans are perfect, or even good, they're at least not EVIL. They make the idea of ever switching parties just unthinkable.

Brainwashing. Years, decades of it.

Then you get guys like Bernie Sanders who, when he sits down with groups of republicans and just TALKS to them, gets them to listen, makes them realize that what they believe and hold important actually lines up quite a bit with what he wants to do. They never get to see the actual democratic agenda, only weird, made-up shit about DEI and forced sex-changes at public schools. Shit, we can't even get an ASPIRIN at school, and they somehow this is something that can happen?

Brainwashing.

[u/KarmaticArmageddon → u/impendingwardrobe]

So many dads on social media constantly brag about what they'd do if they caught a pedophile.

And when they finally did find one, they voted for him THREE FUCKING TIMES

[u/impendingwardrobe → u/KarmaticArmageddon]

My dad always told me if anybody lays a finger on me he'd kill them. He said it again when I told him that I was concerned having a sex predator as president would embolden other sex pests.

He told me I had never met a victim of sexual assault and he hadn't either.

I told him yes he had. He knows me, my mom, her mom, his mom, his sisters, and many of his nieces.

He asked zero follow up questions and dropped the subject.

Yeah. Way to go get 'em, Dad.

[u/slowtreme → u/batty_prime]

my father is a nam vet, and he's quite aware of how crooked trump is.

[u/Idocreating → u/slowtreme]

The fact that Trump was a draft dodger should be enough for any 'Nam vet.

[u/StrawDawg → u/batty_prime]

I'm right there with you. It is horrible that my Dad passed too soon, and I feel guilty feeling this way, but I'm very relieved that he was not around to spiral down. Guarantee it would have torn the family apart.

[u/Fragrant_Cod_8113 → u/batty_prime]

My dad is like this and hates Trump, so it's not impossible. All of his posts lately have been about how MAGA sucks.

He's not a liberal by any means, though, he just talks a lot about the need for a 3rd party.

[u/MemeSerf → u/batty_prime]

Could have said all this about my dad. Sad that he's gone but thankful I never had to see him become one of these maga conspiracy nuts.

[u/yagonnawanna → u/Capable_Maintenance1]

Ask specifically what he gets done. Ask him to name literally fucking anything ever.

[u/Germanofthebored → u/yagonnawanna]

Trump is getting things done - when it comes to tearing things down. He is great at doing that quick and without a thought. It's getting things done in a constructive way where he is struggling a bit...

[u/Teledildonic → u/yagonnawanna]

He got dodging the Vietnam draft done.

[u/Capable_Maintenance1 → u/yagonnawanna]

I tried this with the wall once, but it was my mistake for not becoming a fully licensed expert first.
All I knew was Trump said Mexico would pay as a campaign promise, and it would be done by X date, and neither of those were true.
My Dad may be brainwashed but he's still very smart and had way more info to toss back at me.

[u/breakingbaud → u/Capable_Maintenance1]

I’ve got a terminal degree and I’m a well respected member of my profession. God forbid I should be anything less than the foremost expert on all aspects of policy before my parents would ever concede a talking point. Do they have anywhere near my education or professional accomplishment? No but it doesn’t stop them from endlessly belittling anything I say.

[u/Ouch_i_fell_down → u/breakingbaud]

I've been working in imports for 15 years.

My mother still wont listen to me about what duties/tariffs are and who pays them.

Bitch! I fucking pay them. Every god damned day and I've got the paperwork to prove it. Then when I get my laptop out to show her a 7501 all the sudden she "doesn't want to get into it right now."

[u/Big_Daddy_Stovepipe → u/Ouch_i_fell_down]

"doesn't want to get into it right now."

Anyone who says this is a confirmed POS in my book. If you can't talk rationally and reasonably about something, I really don't want you in my life. Which brings us to today, I can only talk to most of my family about silly surface level things. Any politics and they can't put Trump's dick in their mouth fast enough. People I love and respected, past tense, just gargling his balls and a good many of them are doing it because someone else in the family is into it, IMO.

[u/shit_ass_mcfucknuts → u/Capable_Maintenance1]

My Vietnam veteran, heavily involved in church father hates trumps fascist ass.

[u/FlameDad → u/shit_ass_mcfucknuts]

I’m a USMC Vietnam vet, not part of any church, and the only thing Trump will ever be is a Traitor in Chief.

[u/Puzzleheaded_Pain_24 → u/FlameDad]

First Felon with his First Whore also should be acceptable titles.

[u/redlurker12 → u/shit_ass_mcfucknuts]

I wish your dad would talk to mine. At 80 years old and a Vietnam Vet, I have no hope of trying to move his voting to anything but R down the ballot.

[u/Ouch_i_fell_down → u/redlurker12]

He dodged the draft, called McCain a loser, asserted POWs aren't worthy of any praise, said KIAs are "suckers and losers", and threatened to give himself a Medal of Honor. Yet military love him?

Seriously, what the fuck does this guy have that I don't understand? Half the fucking country calls him charismatic, but when i hear him talk he sounds like half his brain is missing.

[u/AlaskaRecluse → u/shit_ass_mcfucknuts]

I don’t have military service but as a civilian I salute your dad

[u/jshuster → u/shit_ass_mcfucknuts]

🫡 Props to your pops, for that at least

[u/lyngen → u/Capable_Maintenance1]

I am going to guess your dad watches fox news or newsmax.

[u/Pristine-Pen-9885 → u/Capable_Maintenance1]

Just what does he get done?

[u/crazyscottish → u/Pristine-Pen-9885]

He can blow smoke to your ass like a real Champ-ion.

Worlds greatest. Believe me. People have said. Good people. People you know.

[u/Capable_Maintenance1 → u/Pristine-Pen-9885]

He can tell you something will be free and then charge you out the ass for it. He's real good at that.

[u/Pristine-Pen-9885 → u/Capable_Maintenance1]

He can sell you cheaply made Trump merch and charge inflated prices for it. Sometimes you never get the merch (Trump phones).

[u/f1del1us → u/Capable_Maintenance1]

Propaganda is a hell of a drug

[u/SweetandSourCaroline → u/Capable_Maintenance1]

it’s so frustrating. i have the same issues.

[u/coconuthorse → u/Capable_Maintenance1]

Has anyone ever described what "it" is? I've heard people say things like you mentioned, or even "he's doing things that need to be done." Yet I have never heard a single person mention specifics about what "it" and "things" are. Even an single example of it and the things that have improved for society would be awesome. I mean, beyond scoring above 90% on a cognitive test 5-6 times, what tangible or statistical metrics have actually improved for the American people?

[u/MisterBaker55 → u/coconuthorse]

Well Trump's created a secret police force that's entirely loyal to Trump alone and instructed them to deport or kill anyone who looks brown or disagrees with him, he's demonized people who dare to be gay or trans or really any minority, he's allowed people who hid their racist/sexist/hateful beliefs to be open and proud about them and he's made billions for himself and his family by forcing through policies and trade deals with our nation's enemies while sabotaging our connections with what used to be our allies all while destabilizing the American government and turning it into a sham of what it once was and possibly making it so it can never be fixed or go back to what it once was. I may have missed some things but im pretty sure that's what "it" is.

[u/surnik22 → u/coconuthorse]

Answers I’ve gotten related to that fall into 2 categories.

Factually wrong things without specifics, but if you try to show them it’s incorrect they will reject any sources as liberal lies, change the subject, or move the goal post -

Drained the swamp/lowered corruption, secured the border, made America respected by the world again, stopped wars, stopped persecution of Christians, and prevented Iran from getting nukes.

Racism/Bigotry that they sometimes try to hide and sometimes admit-

Rounding up “criminals” (brown people), killing “terrorists” (brown Muslim people), and stopping trans people from existing and/or playing sports.

[u/Special_Fan5043 → u/bala_means_bullet]

Not this one. 

[u/IrozI → u/bala_means_bullet]

My mom's partner was a Vietnam vet and hated trump, voted against him and went to protests right up until he passed . I hate that trump outlived him.

[u/bala_means_bullet → u/IrozI]

Same. When I think about it.... I'm glad my dad isn't around to experience this shit.... He'd probably want to end things himself had he not died from COPD. Damn, he hated Trump.

[u/FaithinYosh → u/bala_means_bullet]

I have a family member that was in Camp Lejeune. He has cancer, most likely from being there. He supports Trump.

Ill never understand it.

[u/bala_means_bullet → u/FaithinYosh]

"I love the dumb and uneducated. Smart people hate me". ~Shitler

[u/eulerman → u/bala_means_bullet]

Not me

[u/TackleGullible330 → u/bala_means_bullet]

Combat veteran here and I have never and will never support a draft dodging con man.

[u/Lukcy → u/oxnardmontalvo7]

I believe he called veterans “suckers” and “losers” correct? That shows what he thinks of veterans already

[u/screw-magats → u/Lukcy]

I thought that was directed at the Killed in Action troops. Which y'know, is probably even worse.

[u/ReluctantNerd7 → u/screw-magats]

Yes, specifically the Marines who died at Belleau Wood, one of the most famous battles in USMC history.

[u/MechanicLoose2634 → u/InsideGrandiose7251]

They shouldn’t. They can’t. He’s panicking. Flailing. Just a sub-human mess.

[u/7ofalltrades → u/MechanicLoose2634]

"I'll totally give you money this time!" - scam artist who has continually lied about stimulus checks and regularly refuses to pay people for work completed and has instead repeatedly stolen from anything that moves.

[u/Pristine-Pen-9885 → u/7ofalltrades]

Or doesn’t move.

[u/redlurker12 → u/7ofalltrades]

He sounds just like my stepkids real dad. POS couldn't even send money for high school graduation.

[u/100LittleButterflies → u/MechanicLoose2634]

No, he cant, yet he will do everything in his considerable and growing power to keep it from happening just like all of the other things hes not allowed to do. 

The guy got presidency even though he was a known pedophile. There is no such thing as "you cant do that" while he has so much as 1 sympathetic ear. His enablers need to be prosecuted for the crimes they have committed to let him get to where his is. And they need to be made an example of. Thus always to tyrants.

[u/boot2skull → u/InsideGrandiose7251]

Dangling a carrot over voters which shouldn’t be legal nor optional.

[u/tastydrink1 → u/InsideGrandiose7251]

Everything he's promised has failed, he's grasping at straws saying anything he possibly can to gain traction right now, no one's getting paid

[u/Haradion_01 → u/InsideGrandiose7251]

Its the inevitable result of electing someone who admires fascists and autocrats.

[u/Software_Vast → u/Haradion_01]

*because they are a fascist

[u/Due-Leek-8307 → u/InsideGrandiose7251]

Especially when it's "vote to keep us in power in the positions we already control and we will do this thing we could have done at any time in the last 2 years with the power we already have but decided not to because fuck you I just want your vote and we will not actually do what we say to help if you believe us."

[u/Demorant → u/InsideGrandiose7251]

It shouldn't matter, he's threatening to hold payments hostage if you don't vote for his shitty people. The fact is, this is exactly the type of thing Democrats are more likely to pay out than Republicans. Veterans aren't wealthy enough for the current swamp of Republicans to care about.

[u/RedditRockit → u/InsideGrandiose7251]

Because the president is a rat fuck

[u/Prownilo → u/InsideGrandiose7251]

Hes trying to buy votes.

This is not the first time he's done it in this cycle alone. No one is stopping him so he is just getting more snd more brazen.

Wouldn't surprise me if he came out and said if republic dont win in their state then they are gonna bomb their largest city.

[u/Molwar]

The outcome doesn't matter, Trump doesn't pay out.

[u/MaikeruGo → u/Molwar]

To add to this, he has a history of not paying people that he's promised money to. There have been cases where folks have ended up in court for years just to get the money they had been promised for doing work (I believe construction in at least one case) for him.

If folks are banking on getting any money from him they should take that into consideration.

[u/GrumpyCloud93 → u/MaikeruGo]

It's his standard tactic. "Go ahead and sue". If he can stall the creditor for long enough, they'll pay more in legal fees than they can recover, so they don't even try - whereas he's paying his lawyers all the time anyway, so no loss.

[u/Adler4290 → u/GrumpyCloud93]

whereas he's paying his lawyers all the time anyway, so no loss.

I think he postponed or neglected to pay lawyers too in the past.

[u/GrumpyCloud93 → u/Adler4290]

Rudi agrees with you.

[u/combination_is_12345 → u/Molwar]

Yeah this “settlement” is in the same nonexistent filing cabinet as the $5000 checks.

[u/InsaneBrew → u/Molwar]

He never pays, but he always lies.

[u/ScaryBlanket_Reborn]

POS. My dad was stationed there all through the 80s. He died of intestinal cancer in 2022 at 65 and they said his particular form of cancer wasn’t covered in the settlement

[u/Majestic-Selection22 → u/ScaryBlanket_Reborn]

My dad was stationed there in the late. ‘50’s and early ‘60’s. Died in 2004 at 65 from intestinal cancer. We got the same story, not covered. Fuck cancer.

[u/ScaryBlanket_Reborn → u/Majestic-Selection22]

Wow! Same same story. Unbelievable. Yeah, I was the only one of my siblings not born on that base, so I worry about them too.

So sorry to hear about your pops 🥲. He was probably like my dad, never sick in his life, then boom, cancer. FC!

[u/SonofaSlumlord → u/ScaryBlanket_Reborn]

My older brother lived there as a baby in the late 60's when my dad was there and just beat stomach cancer. I wonder if the 2 are related now.

[u/batty_prime → u/ScaryBlanket_Reborn]

As someone who was orphaned as an adult, I’m sorry for your loss.

[u/Ephemeris → u/batty_prime]

This is the weirdest turn of phrase I have ever seen.

[u/bridgest844 → u/batty_prime]

Aren’t we all orphaned as an adults?

[u/AltGrendel → u/bridgest844]

Eventually, yes.

[u/Drithyin → u/AltGrendel]

Hopefully. The alternative is worse.

[u/Catsdrinkingbeer → u/Drithyin]

My mom died when I was young. My grandmother was still alive. It was incredibly hard on her. 

[u/Deep_Two_2341 → u/bridgest844]

in the best case scenerio, yes

[u/Chipchipcherryo → u/bridgest844]

Some of us die before our parents so no?

[u/bridgest844 → u/Chipchipcherryo]

I guess that’s true

[u/BearlyThereMA → u/batty_prime]

Thats a new one to me.

I was orphaned at 53. I never knew.

[u/mlv_1969 → u/ScaryBlanket_Reborn]

So sorry about your dad💔 hopefully you and your family will find justice for him.

[u/myxlpltt → u/ScaryBlanket_Reborn]

Terribly sorry about your loss.

[u/FatSquirrel37]

Not a veteran, but this is pretty blatant bribery and election interference, is it not?

[u/Tasty_Orange_1714 → u/FatSquirrel37]

Yes. It is. He breaks the law every time he says something like this. Yet, nothing is being done. Our system is a joke now.

[u/subnautus → u/Tasty_Orange_1714]

It's hard to impeach him when there's co-conspirators in the House and Senate. But there is an election in a couple of weeks (if you don't want to participate in the ongoing early voting for said election, that is)...

[u/Natural-Army → u/subnautus]

Voted. The stats of young 18-39 people who could vote is like ~8-15%.

[u/scientist_tz → u/Tasty_Orange_1714]

Add it to the many counts on his impeachment if the Dems win the house and if the legally elected representatives are actually seated without trying to steal the election.

Not that he'll be convicted by the Senate. The joke never ends, it seems.

[u/thinsafetypin → u/FatSquirrel37]

It's also never, ever ever going to happen. His own party doesn't want it to happen. It's the middle school kid running for class president saying he's going to get candy and soda on the lunch menu.

[u/batty_prime → u/FatSquirrel37]

I would take it a step further past bribery and say this is an ultimatum.

[u/ZAlternates → u/batty_prime]

He’s immune to law until Congress and the SCROTUS choose otherwise. Congress can impeach and remove hjm. The SCROTUS can declare certain acts as unofficial to remove his legal protection.

[u/Educator1337 → u/FatSquirrel37]

He is POTUS. The supremes say he is above the law. So, open corruption is OK because he is doing it out in the open. They aren’t bribes, they are tips and gratuities.

[u/anironthrownaway → u/FatSquirrel37]

Sure but it could be argued that its part of his job so the only way for him to face consequences is removal from office by the majority Republican Senate.

[u/Commercial_Craft_605]

Any Veteran that support or voted for Trump is an embarrassment to other Veterans after Jan 6th and this is another reason why. I’m a Veteran that never betrayed his oath. 

[u/AllYrLivesBelongToUS → u/Commercial_Craft_605]

Trump, the draft dodger, sh*'n on McCain, should have been the breaking point. Spewing "I like people who weren't captured". What a f*'n clown.

[u/marian_norway5320 → u/Commercial_Craft_605]

Thank you for your service and for saying this. Tying veteran payouts to election outcomes is wild. That's not support, that's a hostage situation.

[u/katastrophyx]

As a veteran, I don't need this to prove to me that Trump is a crook and a traitor to the United States.

It's a well-documented fact that he dodged the draft more than once, and he has made disparaging comments about veterans and the families of veterans many times over the course of his political career.

Any service member or veteran that supports him should be ashamed of themselves.

[u/Micojageo → u/katastrophyx]

I wish I knew what on earth my dad is listening to that made him say this president is the best friend to veterans we've ever had. Like, who is spouting that nonsense? Was it the part where he called veterans cowards? Was it insulting John McCain? Was it claiming the bone spurs?

[u/Khaldara → u/Micojageo]

Having to climb that one broken escalator at the UN under his own steam and haul his porcine frame up a gentle flight of stairs was his own personal Vietnam

[u/marrangutang → u/katastrophyx]

As an outsider looking in, no skin in the game… this is exactly as I see it, the man has zero respect for the armed services except as a tool to be used and scapegoated as suits

[u/Abysstopher → u/katastrophyx]

I’d like to add that not only is he a draft dodger amongst other far worse things, Obama would fucking smoke him in a round of golf, and I know that is something that would hurt him personally. Everything else, the real stuff that marks him as a traitor, means nothing to him.

Fuck him. I can’t fucking wait until he’s gone.

(Periodt)

[u/Thunder_Two]

Upon further research, the government is already paying claims.

So really, Trump is promising something that is already happening and threatening to take it away if they lose.

[u/batty_prime → u/Thunder_Two]

Right? To me this reads like an ultimatum. Unless I get my way, I will stop due process.

[u/Gogs85]

I think having benefits like this be conditional on election outcomes is actually illegal as it is technically considered vote-buying but I suppose someone would have to hold him accountable for that to matter.

But potential voters reading: Wouldn’t you rather have a party in charge who tried to work for your 100% of the time and not just at their whims?

[u/Germanofthebored → u/Gogs85]

He is doing it in his role as president, so he already got the carde blanche from the Supreme Court

[u/asianwaste]

Veteran here. This man does not have my interests at heart. If you are active duty, he does not have yours either.

Even if I were to feel anywhere near coerced, him having his way will only serve against my needs and interests anyways. A threat only works if the alternatives are clearly a salvageable benefit.

[u/Beholder_V]

Nothing this megalomaniac says or does surprises me any more. I’m just embarrassed. Serving during the Iraq war kind of broke my illusion that we were unequivocally “the good guys”, but I didn’t think we’d ever stoop to overt fascism.

It’s so overt the Republicans are kind of split between saying that perhaps fascism isn’t actually all that bad, or trying to rewrite the definition of fascism. My personal favorite is when they try to say that fascism is actually a leftist ideal, lol. That’s some next-level denial.

[u/MouthHope2026 → u/Beholder_V]

The cognitive dissonance required to call fascism 'leftist' while simultaneously waving flags of historical dictatorships is truly spectacular.

[u/Expensive_Silver_250]

Shouldn’t veterans receive the justice and compensation they deserve regardless of who wins the election? Why should their sacrifices become political bargaining chips?

[u/Special_Feedback9145 → u/Expensive_Silver_250]

We’ve elected an unethical moron to office…how hard is that to understand?

[u/OnePotential3269 → u/Special_Feedback9145]

Yes, but he was elected by unethical morons...

[u/Key-Article6622 → u/Expensive_Silver_250]

This grifter is trying to buy votes. Plain and simple. Camp Lejune personnel that were affected will get the settlement whether Repubs or Dems win, he's just trying to scare people into voting his way. If they haven't seen through that lie yet there's no hope for them. He reneged on almost every promise he's ever made. He screwed farmers, truckers, auto workers, coal miners, everyone he's ever made a promise to. They still vote for him. They're told Dems are socialists and they don't even know what a socialist is. This isn't even a promise, it's a lie. I'd bet dollars to donuts if he wins or loses, he'll try to find a way to renege on the settlement either way.

[u/RabbitStewAndStout → u/Expensive_Silver_250]

Whoever voted for him the first time was fooled. Whoever voted for him the second time was stupid. Whoever votes for what he wants since then is stupid AND evil.

[u/Corgiboom2 → u/Expensive_Silver_250]

This guy made Covid a political weapon

[u/SgtRamesses]

Marine veteran here, it's an absolute disgrace that any military personnel or veteran still support this shit stain. Yes, I said what I said and all you blue falcons can eat a dick, without your boot bands on.

[u/ThirdandTwo → u/SgtRamesses]

Ca-caw you dick eaters!

[u/Particular_Ticket_20]

So, money for ballrooms, arches, golf course reno, reflecting pools, Iran war, Guard deployment to peaceful American cities, new motorcade vehicles, New Air Force 1.....but not for veteran health issues.

Got it.

[u/Impossible_Event6007]

Wait a minute. If the Republicans don't win the midterms shouldn't there be an extra trillion or so dollars kicking around that Trump won't be paying to every adult in the US?

[u/Thunder_Two]

He’s such a scumbag that it’s hard to comprehend.

[u/JeremiahCLynn → u/Thunder_Two]

Cartoonish levels of villainy.

[u/Ok_Fee_9684 → u/JeremiahCLynn]

That's exactly what he is. A cartoon villain that somehow escaped his realm & got into ours & now he's wreaking havoc & chaos here.🤦🤣🤣🤣

[u/JeremiahCLynn → u/Ok_Fee_9684]

Quick! Somebody get an anvil!

[u/berkeley_solipsist]

He's an absolute POS and now, with the Russia thing, a traitor. I was Navy 87-91 and none of the people I served with would/do back this human toilet

[u/ChordSlinger → u/berkeley_solipsist]

Zero integrity

[u/Alternative_Tie_6575]

Criminal. Treason, attempted coersion to influence the election. I can't stand what has become of my country. I am a Republican & Ashamed of my party and country.

[u/igetbannedanyway]

Republicans have fought against veteran benefits on numerous occasions to the point John fucking Stewart had to go before congress and shame them into doing something. If you're a veteran that still supports these idiots you're a disgrace to the oath you took.

[u/Bidet2You]

Trump doesn’t care about us veterans or anyone else. He’s a traitor.

[u/grayscale42]

Trump is the most anti-veteran president in the history of the US. He can go fuck himself.

[u/78celeb]

Better question to ask-> what do you mean there’s no money?????

[u/daddydunc → u/78celeb]

He means that money is already earmarked for his friends and family via corruption.

[u/MisterTruth]

There isn't a payout. It's just another lie. There are no $5000 checks coming just like there weren't $2000 tariff checks or $5000 doge checks.

[u/ballistic-jelly]

I am a cold war vet. I spent my entire service preparing to go to war to stop the Soviet Union. It sickens me to see our president suck up to the Russian bloc.

[u/Raspberries-Are-Evil]

Every single Republican voter should immediately ask why if this is in his power to do (which is not,) why hasn't he done it already?

[u/theBoobMan → u/Raspberries-Are-Evil]

I think the real question is why is he holding these funds hostage if it's in his power to help.

[u/HunterShotBear → u/theBoobMan]

He’s not holding funds hostage, he’s holding injured men and women who volunteered to fight for our country hostage.

[u/RobotGhostZero → u/Raspberries-Are-Evil]

The Air Force Sergeants Association lists the Elizabeth Dole Act (H.R. 8371) as part of their lists of legislative accomplishments among others. House Vote - 12 Nays - All Republican. One example of many.

Being a long term member of the AFSA and being compelled to get others to join I had asked about how 100% of democrats voted yes and all the no votes where from Republicans and was ignored.

[u/Graz13]

Lock this POS UP!

[u/Hooda-Thunket → u/Graz13]

“Putting the POS in POTUS since 2017!”

[u/Crott117]

Ima guess he’ll fund that right after Mexico pays for the wall and he releases the Epstein files.

[u/Ok_Peanut_3573 → u/Crott117]

Infrastructure plan and federal health care plan in "two weeks"

[u/RobotGhostZero]

The PACT Act (2022): In August 2022, President Biden signed the PACT Act (Honoring our PACT Act of 2022) into law. It represents the largest expansion of Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) healthcare and disability benefits in decades.

The PACT Act expanded coverage so significantly that over 1 million veterans and survivors received claims approvals and earned benefits within its first two years. This led to historic surges in enrollment and disability compensation.

Massive VA Workforce Expansion: To manage the surge in claims and medical appointments created by the PACT Act, the Biden administration expanded both the Veterans Health Administration (VHA) and Veterans Benefits Administration (VBA) at their fastest growth rates in over two decades.

Broadening Access to Care Early: Under Biden's directive, the VA expedited eligibility timelines ahead of schedule, allowing all toxic-exposed veterans—including post-9/11 veterans—to enroll directly in VA healthcare years earlier than originally phased in the legislation.

Anyone who works with the VA/veterans disability etc will tell you that Joe Biden had done more for vets then probably anyone recently.

[u/drsuperfly]

I served in the Army. My father served in the Marines and died in part because of health issues tied to Camp Lejeune. I disapprove of bribing people for their vote. I disapprove of creating fake ballots trying to overturn presidential elections. I approve of releasing the Epstein files and holding people accountable for their actions.

[u/RenamedAccount185516]

As a veteran who was at Camp Lejeune during those years and who has beaten cancer, but still have friends battling bladder cancer, kidney cancer, and Parkinsons - part of me says "fuck him and his whole corrupt administration" - but part of me is not surprised.

Despite his apologists, he clearly only gives a shit about veterans when it benefits him, whether it be at a campaign stop, a fundraiser, or as in this case, as disposable pawns in a blackmail scheme.

It is just about what I've come to expect from him.

[u/AfterMarketLife314 → u/RenamedAccount185516]

No he thinks you were suckers. He said it out loud. He only cares about himself and raping children.

Trump raped children with Jeffery Epstien

[u/shell511]

As a vet who has known people stationed at camp lejune I find it highly insulting that you’ve had 10 years to make this happen and haven’t given two shits about the situation until now. Now you dangle it over everyone’s head to try to buy votes. So you really think that my fellow service members and veterans are stupid enough to buy into this shit??? You and all your brainwashed incumbent congressmen are soon going to find out that we’re wise to you now. Any promise you make falls on deaf ears because you’ve made all these promises before and have done ZERO to make it happen, why would we believe that NOW with 2 years left on your tenure your going to actually do things that will benefit the actual citizens of this country!

Whew, I just needed to stand up on my soapbox and get that off my chest. Thank you for coming to my TedTalk

[u/Greabidiot]

I think he’s telling us to our faces that if doesn’t get his way he will hurt citizens of America.

He’s not fit to serve as president. He wasn’t before, either.

[u/anonoldman2020]

As one of the Camp Lejeune poisoned, most of the comments on our Camp Lejeune Facebook group are against Trump's bribe. And it is just another Trump lie.

[u/batty_prime → u/anonoldman2020]

The whole reason I made this post was to hear from Vets that he is now directly threatening imo and hopefully that they stood against it. My faith in humanity slightly restored. Thanks!

[u/Stormy31568]

As a Camp Lejeune victim I don’t believe a word he says. He had four years now he has had two years to get concerned about the people who lived at Camp Lejeune. From my father’s service to this country, active duty USMC for two wars this is what we get. Nobody is helping us with anything and they haven’t. It’s another thing he can forget about when he leaves North Carolina

[u/Mytweezer]

If it's not illegal it should be.

[u/Balbuto]

He’s holding the Nation hostage.

[u/feanturi]

Making such a statement should be grounds for immediate removal from office. But of course he already gets away with all the other things that should get a president both fired and arrested. So it's not even about Trump, hasn't been for awhile. America is broken and fucked.

[u/Viddlemethis]

As a vet Jan 6 was my point of no return. This is just the 73rd layer of icing on the cake.

I didn’t vote for Trump his first term even though I thought he’d be an interesting candidate because I’d never vote for a guy I wouldn’t willingly work for and I’ll never vote for a commander in chief I don’t feel has integrity. Dude is known for not paying vendors. He has turned out to be SOOO MUCH WORSE!

Any veteran brother of mine that supports him is dumb as fuck. Unforgivable. Remember how he talked about McCain. Look at what he said about Iran casualties. If you support him you’re a dumbass.

[u/No-Joke8570]

He seems so corrupt, I'm surprised he hasn't said: "If Alaska votes Dems, I'll give it back to my buddy from Russia"

[u/listentomenow]

Sounds like something a traitor to the constitution would do.

[u/Upset-Knowledge-5285]

Threatening voters with their own money. What a dick.

[u/motherofspoos]

Holy Mary, Mother of God, is there ANYTHING he won't use as a bribe? If I was a veteran I would be so mad about this. Plus--- look at his history!!! He does not honor his commitments, never has.

ETA: this is about the 5th bribe he's put out for the midterms. He obviously knows by now that his own administration is not going to call him out for this, so he can say whatever he wants- there's no consequences. If The People have a problem with it, he knows he can simply sic ICE on any dissent, and then declare martial law.

I think he's baiting us.

[u/theycallmeJTMoney]

Vet here. 9 years in the AF. If you are a vet and Trump mocking John McCain for being captured in Vietnam didn’t turn you off from him, then you are in my view a piece of shit and this doesn’t mean anything.

[u/TheMacIntyreRange]

Unbiased answer: There's supposed to be a settlement reached by 10/30/26, but in reality this is a negotiation target date. There's been a lot of concern, as reported by people closely associated with this case, that if the house or senate flips in November the funds will not be approved. The Biden admin gave anyone who had spent more than 30 days at LeJeune until 10/2024 to file a civil claim, but had to wait an additional 6 months before prompting the escalation into a federal claim.

For some additional context, the complaints and internal investigations leading to the current federal case have been rolling in for decades. Marines and family members have known about these issues since the late 70s to early 80s. This massive ongoing f-up and disservice to our troops can't be owned by one single politician or political party; its 50 years of sweeping the problem under the rug.

Edit: I'm a veteran and can confirm that Lejeune is far from the only base with serious problems. Ft Cavasos (Hood) and Camp Courtney are pretty jacked up as well, and those problems are also decades old and haven't been fully brought into the light yet. If you're involved in advocacy for current military personnel and/or veterans, look into those locations.

[u/Emergency-Ad-5211]

Impeach this asshole already!

[u/Fharic → u/Emergency-Ad-5211]

Impeached twice, convicted of 34 felony counts, zero consequences.

The Blue Wave also needs to clean out the Dems that allowed this.

[u/National_Cod9546]

He's a bold face liar who never honors any agreement made unless it directly benefits him personally to do so. Since honoring the agreements after the GOP wins midterms, he will not willingly honor this. Same for the $5000 check. Or going back, same reason we're never going to see the Dodg checks, the tariff checks, or anything else he's promised anyone.

Even the Covid stimulus checks he only allowed to go through if his name was on the check somewhere. And that was passed with veto proof majority in congress.

He is a conman through and through. And I'm disappointed in how many of my fellow service members voted for the draft dodger traitor.

[u/rreed1954]

How is this not blatant election tampering?

[u/WizardRockets]

Sumbag move tying that or $5,000 for every adult citizen to the election results. Everyone should be calling that new fraud hotline with tips about him and his administration.

[u/blondetown]

FYI they’ve held up claims for four years now, slow-walking the process. A video from our attorney says that at the end of October the judge wants global settlement numbers to be set and dispersed without anymore individual trials. The DOJ then proceeded to call the claims fake news not set in science. TRUMP IS REFUSING TO PAY OUT. Gee, I wonder why. Greedy coward.

[u/elder65]

This just shows his desperation. The Camp Lejeune issue is real. People with real claims are slowly getting their due process. It's slow because the fraudsters, freeloaders and shysters have bogged up the system and everyone has to wade through the trash.

If Cadet Bone Spurs had his way, he would just pay everyone some kind of pennies-one-the-dollar pittance, and close the whole thing down. He could give a fuck less about real suffering or medical conditions.

[u/scottkuma]

It should be illegal to tie it to an election outcome.

[u/youandican]

he is saying anything he can hoping to get votes. If he wins he still isn't going to do shit. It is all just about buying the vote.

[u/not-dsl]

This is about human injury and suffering, so of course it has to be politicized by the turd

[u/HaydenTMILF]

As a Canadian who's lived right at the border on the west coast his entire life, and spent the 15 years as a young adult touring through America playing music, I have always loved America and as much as the people, loved the dream of America, the ideal it represented. from that you point, this has been almost too much to watch. the fact that it took his first term and almost 2 years of the second for people to see just what he has been doing to your country, its constitution and its Bill of Rights, is unutterably sad. I hope you all get your country back.

[u/baconator1988]

I work for the VA and we already give compensation to veteran who served at Camp Lejeune and have a disease or illness from exposure to contaminated water.

Trumps dementia is real.

[u/SuckMyRedditorD]

Rapist pedophile Donald J. Trump extortion 101.

Will you ever learn a single thing about the reality you live in?

[u/DV_Mitten]

As a veteran. Fuck that guy and everything he thinks he stands for.

[u/goody_71]

He doesn't give a fuck about vets or active. And I can't understand the vets or active who support him.

[u/ellcoolj]

But after they give all of us $5000 when they win, there will be no money left for the settlement...

[u/Everheart1955]

As a Vet: IMPEACH, REMOVE,PROSECUTE.

[u/cletusthearistocrat]

Anyone who believes turnip, must have a memory like a goldfish.

He only promises good things when he's desperate to get what he wants.

As soon as he gets what he wants, he forgets all about the promises and calls you an asshole for trying to collect. Think about it...

Also, if any part of government is going to pay victims, it's not likely the republicans or trump.

[u/DANonymous88]

My dad is a a part of those affected by Camp Lajeune. He was exposed to toxic chemicals when he was a Marine stationed in North Carolina. He voluntarily signed up to serve his country and was exposed to these chemicals as a result. It really fucked him up, he's been dealing with a really painful neurological condition that causes these intense uncontrollable spasms that can last for hours. I've seen the pain it's caused him, it's one of the hardest things I've ever had to witness. He gets some help from the VA but it's been a struggle and there isn't much doctors can do.

Please vote these pieces of shit out of office.

[u/Mrgray123]

Trump is a sociopath who only believes in transactional relationships that benefit him. It doesn’t matter who you are, your pain, your suffering, if Trump cannot benefit from it he is not interested.

[u/SportZealousideal146]

Our orange moron is doing everything he can to buy votes. And, there are actual other morons (voters) that actually believe him. They honestly think they will get a $5,000 check in the mail. SMDH

[u/maddog1956]

Veteran here. It shows how desperate he is, he'll say anything. Expected it with your DOGE and tariff rebate.

Also he's a slap in the face to any veteran that served in the cold war.

[u/LittleKitty235]

The mob boss president. 30+% of this country think that's a good thing.

[u/Islanduniverse]

If you are in the military and you support conservatives at all, you are not thinking critically.

Conservatives don’t care about service members. They are nothing but a means to an end to such people.

If you are in the military and you support Donald Trump, you are a complete moron.

[u/gg_helloworld]

Illegal isn’t it?

[u/morning_redwoody]

Classic trump. Promise the moon as long as you give him what he wants then pretend like it never happened. Only the stupid fall for this.

[u/brufleth]

That's... not how this works.

Congress has acknowledge and even passed a law concerning the Lejeune ground water and the harm it has caused.

Settlement payouts are the realm of the judiciary.

The executive should not have any say on this matter.

Full disclosure: Not a veteran, but lived there when I was a newborn.

[u/Bullyoncube]

He increased the debt more than any other president. If there’s no money, it’s because he won’t tax the people with all the money.

[u/Responsible_Low_8021]

He could do it now. He could have done it his first term. But no. Bribery and false promises.

[u/Traditional-Purpose2]

Is this not extortion?

[u/Impossible_Poetry422]

He’s a traitor

[u/Kurainuz]

I know it sounds dramatic but unless the US votes against trump any semblance of democracy in the west will be condemned, and im European

With how europe is shifting to the far right wich is in service of trumps owners i dont have hopes for the future unless the us bounces back

[u/h0bb1tm1ndtr1x]

What moron thinks he's willingly paying anyone?

[u/BleuRaider]

Grifter. It’s pathetic after a decade people still fall for his total bullshit.

[u/Capable_Maintenance1]

I'm not a veteran but either way I think Trump is an asshole.

[u/murbike → u/Capable_Maintenance1]

I'm a veteran and agree.
Everything with that asshole is a transaction.

[u/snackerooryan]

There’s no money because of Trump’s awful Big Beautiful Bill

[u/DConstructed]

I googled. It’s handled by the Department of Veterans Affairs not the justice department.

He’s just trying to blackmail the US military voters and their families.