r/AllindiaStudentUnion • u/aishatwa • 1d ago
Discussion 🤔 Accountability is the bedrock of trust within any system (I'm not an anti-national)
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u/Manasmit PhD Scholar 1d ago
Police arent there to serve the nation. They are there to serve their masters
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u/Even-Ambassador-2887 1d ago
Just like CJP jihadis serve Dipke and Neha.
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u/Manasmit PhD Scholar 1d ago
No one serves dipke or neha, they don't get any money. It's similar struggles that brings people together. It's when you realise ilthat it's not just you who is getting f*cked but everyone else also goes through the same thing. They band together and try to change their situation for the better.
Noone wants to protest, no one wants to get beaten up by police. There are much better things to do. But when the system is so seriously bad, someone has to step up to the authorities.
BJP pre 2014 did so many protests, dharna, bandh. Were they wrong too? Was that also illegal and were they jihadists too? They were calling resignation of MMS for the Coalgate scam and even though matter was being heard in the court, BJP still did protests. Weren't they anti nationals?
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u/Diligent-Tangelo1240 1d ago
Go first find the meaning of "jihadi" understand it and then comment here. People like you are the reason our critical thinking and scientific temper is going down.
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u/Mindless-Flounder281 1d ago
and even if they are why should i matter? when crime is happening should i call police or cjp?, does your tax money goes to abhijeet or police ?
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u/HoldMyDracula 1d ago
Indian police doesn't exist to protect people. It exists to harass people endlessly, specially Delhi Police.
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u/__LLawliet__ 1d ago
I have lived in 6 states, it's the same everywhere
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u/No-Cauliflower7160 1d ago
Police have no reason to serve the people. To protect their job all they have to do is serve the politicians.
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u/boywholived_299 1d ago
I don't agree with what happened on the show, but definitely agree that police has to be accountable. The simplest solution is that all cops must be made to wear body cams.
This is helpful to the cops as well. Today, they have no power over any politician, and if a politician breaks law on camera, they can't get away with it. It's damn good for citizens for sure.
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u/Fickle_Vast8926 1d ago
They don't even wear their name tags, which is mandated by law. You think they will agree to wear body cams?
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u/Complex_Ad_9100 1d ago
Even if they wear.will anything happened to them if they make mistakes or break laws? Hell no.
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u/boywholived_299 1d ago
That's the beauty of it. If something happens and they weren't wearing body cams, it should count against them. That's how it works in US as well.
What I mean is that if there is a fight between a cop and a civilian, and the body cam is turned off mysteriously, the account of the civilian would take precedence over the cop's. That's why the cops would be incentivised to keep it turned on, or face legal action.
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u/AsuraAKU 1d ago
Cams are not even working in police station bro
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u/boywholived_299 1d ago
And that's why I said we should mandate them. They don't work because no-one cares. Get a politician elected only if they promise this and then see how life becomes slightly easier for us
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u/MarvelousMrBagel 1d ago
The fact that you have to say "i'm not an anti-national after saying something logical represents the sad state of things in this country.
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u/Remarkable-Power-644 1d ago
The duty of police is to maintain order using the law, And Delhi police is exactly doing that by b ting who are disturbing law and orderÂ
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u/aishatwa 1d ago
Not to protect the citizens but to protect the state from its citizens
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u/Even-Ambassador-2887 1d ago
Cry more you won't get to make Delhi as Dhaka burned and arson and looting took place.
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u/aishatwa 1d ago
Are kon chahta h bhai delhi ki dhaka banana ... India is our country we would never want to create chaos and anarchy .. but if people wanted to protest agar aap krne nhi doge to distrust badhega ..
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u/__LLawliet__ 1d ago
> And Delhi police is exactly doing that by b ting who are disturbing law and orderÂ
this was a peaceful protest, by students, these were not criminals.
On the other hand, there were people beating these protestors with sticks and the police HELPED them, forget about arresting them.
Does it really pay that much to ignore the truth of your own eyes?
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u/Fickle_Vast8926 1d ago
Peaceful protest is a fundamental right in a democracy. The police's job is to protect the citizen's rights.
Not to be lapdogs of the government, and suppress protests just because it's inconvenient for the ruling government.
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u/Rajat0741 1d ago
These are not breaking any law, correct ? 🤡
The police themselves don't break law, correct? 🤡
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u/NovelAlarm1192 1d ago
Then what's the difference between cop and normal person , 🤔
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u/AsuraAKU 1d ago
Should be none
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u/NovelAlarm1192 1d ago
The Whats the point of creating police in the first place
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u/AsuraAKU 1d ago
To protect people,law and order
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u/CertainGas1208 1d ago
It's sad they had to add "I'm not an anti-national" after putting forth a completely valid point. This is what the government has done to our mentality
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u/Even-Ambassador-2887 1d ago
Stop eating Nehas tatti think with brain if you have any left. These CJP leaders partied while you get beatings. Dipke was with Neha and team in hotel while he ordered the Parliament march, knowing that he had no permission.
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u/DoubleDiscount3621 1d ago
Raga IT cell alert 🚨
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u/aishatwa 1d ago
Lekin bhai Rag ke khilaf comment krne pr 30 rupye pr post krne par 60 rupye milte hain ... maine 2 baar comment krke 60 rupye kamaye phir imaan yaad aagya waapas to chhod diya
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u/Murky_Strike 1d ago
Citizens also have responsibilities. No one has right to block roads and distrib someones business just for political and monetory benifits.
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u/Queasy_Tank6204 1d ago
In india from independence till now there are several protests which took place
suddenly now businesses are getting disturbed?1
u/Murky_Strike 1d ago
Do you remember ramdev baba was removed from the ramleela ground? Do you remember emergency? Do you remember how zee news editor was arrested immediately because he has done a sting operation?
Suddenly current government becomes dictator? I haven't seen any action against people saying anything against goverment
Suddenly
I wish the paid bots who come out during such protest gets right to vote , even after that thier favourite government will not be elected
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u/Queasy_Tank6204 1d ago
the whole media is in the hands of the govt and
a guy
who was asking "special favors" from a 19 year old is the president of SikkimPM fund is being misused , where the chair main is our own PM
and you assume that i support the other party , because you are botquestioning is our f** right and if it is being taken away by us, then lets see what happens in the future
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u/Murky_Strike 1d ago
I think you were born after 2014 , Wish you could have seem that so called Golden UPA era .
Who is stopping you to question? I see people abusing, being violent against the police, police is not doing anything and you are talking about right? Who has stopped you? All fake narrative. These things might recieve some upvotes from group of people. Everyone know how these messages are shares and upvoted and downvoted as per thier convenience.
Never see amy real support on ground other than some leftist wimg students.
The whole India is in the hands of the govt😄😄
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u/Queasy_Tank6204 1d ago
you know PIL?
the govt has asked supreme court to remove PIL , because it's being "missused"
seriously ? our govt is asking to remove itand we can't file RTI , on PM cares fund . because it's a not public authority
7000+crs are there in thatand we can't question how are they spending it , because we can't even file a RTI
i like how you completely ignored the points
congress was bad and BJP is also bad
but the thing is people knew congress was bad , but BJP uses it's IT Cell
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u/Murky_Strike 1d ago
Bhai you might have not given 25 paisa , People who paid are not worried.I have paid the pm care fund and I will pay again if the PM asks
I have seen how things were handled in pandamic by previous government. When there was bird flew they used to hire film stars and make ads and do rallies eating chicken.
The main issue is that a non dynast from a common man has risen to a post and is being elected again and again. That is not disgestable by many and thats the whole point. Anything which is not in favour suddenly becomes flawed and rigged
Bye
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u/Queasy_Tank6204 1d ago
i bet you don't even know what PIL is
and for your knowledge i paid to the PM fund
that's why i was shocked when the RTI was rejected in the supreme courtby the way 25 paisa is not worth anything
1 rupee is almost 0.01 dollars now1
u/Murky_Strike 1d ago
I know many things that you cannot even imagine. Whatever I will say you will say I have done that.
This is the same copy paste toolkit reply I get every time I comment and you people ensure last comment will be yours.
Last time when the fake protest were going on I said lets stop reservation. Typical reply I myself am an open catagory person but I support reservation. I am this I have already done that😄
25 paisa was just an term. BTW my earings are dollar Linked so its good for me🙂
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u/Big_Cow9851 1d ago
You haven't seen AnY AcTioN against people saying anything against the government ??? 👀 how old are you sir... ?? Genuinely asking.
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u/Murky_Strike 1d ago edited 1d ago
Sir I read news from news papers not whatsapp forwards or untrusted internet sensationalizing news portals. Who just claim . Do you remember the people who were arrested for saying things against NCP leader, shivsena leader and many more.
Let me know who have been arrested? Please don't tell the names of your Icons Umar and sharji.
BTW why are you asking my age ?
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u/Alternative-Scene181 1d ago
Fuck this, nobody has right to block roads and make peoples life miserable. During CAA a vital part of national highway was blocked and for what reason. Public property is not anyone's daddy's property to be meddled with. The most important part some thousands of motherfuckers don't decide the fate of this country.
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