r/AllindiaStudentUnion • u/Forsaken-Garage-676 • Aug 19 '26
Meme - Political 🗳️ Mandal vomit
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u/Sudden_Button_8384 Aug 19 '26
Remove casteism
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u/SmallDetail8461 Aug 20 '26
Reservation is causing more castism
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u/charavaka Aug 20 '26
Casteists always have excuses for their casteism. Stop being casteist.
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u/manchuria Aug 19 '26
Creamy layer for SC/ST categories should be implemented.
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u/riostasis Aug 19 '26
How many sc st seats are there proportional to sc st population?
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u/manchuria Aug 19 '26
A small group of people in SC/ST continue to take all the important positions available without leaving something for the marginalized people in their community.
Wealthy families do not need social welfare. For any actual discrimination based on caste, strong st/sc laws are already there to protect them.
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u/demo_crazy Aug 22 '26
Same is true for general elite. A small group of people continue to take all the important positions without leaving something for the marginalised people of all communities. And when asked they point you to other oppressed people and ask you to fight it out amongst yourself for their leftovers.
But you wouldn’t ever ask strong and rich to leave a slice for you. Would you? No. People very much like you, who are oppressed in a slightly different way, will stay your enemy.
Unless you recognise who has actually denied you education and jobs, unless you recognise for yourself who you should fight with, you will keep fighting who they tell you to fight.
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u/IamBatmanhuihui Aug 21 '26 edited Aug 21 '26
Removing reservation is a part of removing casteism you need to understand that. Why patients don't go to the dalit doctor? It's not because of he's dalit but because he is underqualified to be a doctor. Recently a guy scored 1 mark in NEET pg and got an ortho seat now so you think he will be a good doctor to a society? Removing reservation will make all the patients go to all doctors whether they are bhrahmin or dalit and slowly and slowly our society will forget about casteism. they still remember it even if they are educated because they have been educated fighting for the same seat they deserve but guess what? A dalit stole it now it will only increase his hatred.
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u/Hangmanhateful Aug 23 '26
Can't happen until Brahmin women do mass marriages to SC/ST guys.
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u/ramksr Aug 24 '26
Reservation isn't for casteism... why do you deserve reservation for being in a caste... seats must be on merit only...
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u/Glittering_Ant_6222 Aug 19 '26
Ai slop
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u/EatenPotatoisok Aug 19 '26
Why even use ai for these, there literally already the original template to use
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u/your_average_joe__ Aug 19 '26
Yes, being born the right category where you face constant discrimination, you probably are born to a very poor family and have such a lack of access to education that even scoring 60 percentile is a huge challenge
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u/Accomplished-Wish431 Aug 22 '26
Only in India do millionaires with haram ka paisa through their corrupt govt job they got via reservation are still considered poor
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u/Less-Assignment5134 Aug 19 '26
Then maybe build better infrastructure instead of reservation
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u/xo3srv Aug 19 '26
Then maybe question right people, I’m sure for a right cause everyone will stand
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u/Ecstatic-Sea-8882 Aug 19 '26
And for the current infrastructure, why should anyone agree to a non-representative share? Unless you have already captured disproportionately higher share ?
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u/Ciel__000 Aug 19 '26
The question is you being a general cat officer, will you work for public welfare to uplift the socially deprived ones in remote locations after you get the job or you're going to enroll in the corruption and procrastination limbo ... applying for transfers into posh tier 1 cities every month ?
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u/a_lit_bruh Aug 23 '26
better infrastructure -> govt
reservation -> people
I think you are confused. You should ask the first one, and to the party in power
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u/abhashmadd Aug 19 '26
There is already reservation for people who has less means of education based on economic criteria, what has caste based reservation has to do with this?
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u/Additional_Speech_85 Aug 20 '26
He mean to say majority people of mention states are tribes.
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u/Shashank_26 Aug 19 '26
And none of them is getting reservation. Most of the SCs and STs getting reservation already well off.
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u/badassboy1 Aug 23 '26
They aren't getting that reservation because they don't have enough resources to try using them not cause others are taking it.
Do you know what will stop it ? Socialist policies. Make a system where basic necessities are covered in a way that people can actually use them and are good enough for people to actually use .
You can make reservation 100% in college and it won't affect the person who has to go to work to put food on the table rather than attending classes
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u/Any-Constant4228 Aug 22 '26
Creamy layer should be implemented then. Why do ppl who use references of those unfortunate ppl enjoy reservation, let those poor ppl have it completely.
People who have already got the benefits of reservation should kindly fk off and leave their reservation benefits. Bcz they have no arguments other than to cry using the condition of those poor ppl
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u/Detective_Blues Aug 23 '26 edited Aug 23 '26
Idk I have three friends whose fathers are pandit. Only one was poor who would have britania fruitcake as birthday cake. Other two, one has havelli and other guy doesn't have big house but he just bought latest iphone for him and his sister. Meanwhile I couldn't afford to go to coaching and just bought 30k tablet after saving for years. And the poorest one also eventually got rich and has big house now. But they did have lot of cows from early on.
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u/Spare-Bookkeeper5151 Aug 19 '26
don't go there then😂😂y'all make up 80% of hindus,don't go to their temples,build your own damn temples and don't let Brahmins in
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u/abhashmadd Aug 20 '26
Noone is forcing anyone to give biksha or chanda to priests, neither most of the temples in India are made and maintained by Government. And what about other castes in General. According to your flawed logic tomorrow other castes in general can say I can't be priest in temple, I should also be getting reservation.
See I can tell you that not even 1% Brahmins aspire to be a priest anywhere, it is not a high paying job anyway.
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u/Total_Equivalent9866 Aug 19 '26
From the priests family, not myself a priest, salary is about 6k a month in village. And occasional rice and vegetables bhiksha
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u/badassboy1 Aug 23 '26
What about the ones from big temples. I have seen ones with more money than IT People who has salary of 20+LPA where is all that money coming from.
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u/Ok_Employer_113 Aug 19 '26
and earn literally paise per day like cmon man do you think every temple gets donation in lakhs?so much money goes into maintaining them , the pujaris and priests often have other work to make up for it
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u/FunctionOk7711 Aug 20 '26
fyki temples are not governement funded organisation most of them are run by private organisation and donation
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u/SmallDetail8461 Aug 20 '26
Get basic hinduism knowledge first. Priest job is the hardest one.
You can also become one
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u/No_Leading_1938 Aug 22 '26
abe tere pure khandan ki aukaat nahi hai ki ek verse pronounce bhi karde. you guys really think its that easy? even most brahmins aren’t qualified, only those who study intensively for it are, and then you have to take care of EVERYTHING, from cleaning the temple to offerings and prayers. mf spreading hate but doesn’t know shit
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u/NoChallenge988 Aug 23 '26
Even in christianity to become Cardinal Pope etc you have to be Catholic Christian !! Also there is no one stopping a dalit from becoming a temple priest !!
And just because of that is it justifiable for an ST with 45% get the same seat as the person with 93%ile ??
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u/Feeling-Produce-4269 Aug 19 '26 edited Aug 19 '26
What rights??
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u/virtualtechnoman40 Aug 19 '26
According to “them” its the ONLY “right” category all others are WRONG
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u/CellOk1789 Aug 21 '26
I am reserved category, i got brains to show my skills and talent, I do not want reservation. Let the goverment Remove reservation and give it to POOR. Jai Jai Jai Jai Bhim
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Aug 20 '26
So, SC, ST, and OBC make up roughly 75% of the population and get only 49% reservation. And General, which is estimated to be around 25% (for your benifit, lets make it 30%), gets 40% reservation. Who is benefiting here? Dumb fucks?? Kisi bewakoof admi ne kuch bola diya, or 5 bewakoof admiyon ne maan liya. Reservation ka rona chord do, padhai par dhyan do
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u/Dismal_Inevitable618 Aug 20 '26
Avg reserved category dumbass, its OPEN CATEGORY, for all.
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Aug 20 '26
okay big guy, go check reports and let me know how many open seats are taken by SC/ST peeps. If you are that lazy let me tell you, surprisingly not even 4 percent. You know why because unlike you, they never get that push start, they lack basic necessities, they have lack basic nutritions. And if you can’t eat get a seat in those 45 percent despite making up only 25 percent of the population, then you know where the issue lies😚😚.
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u/abhashmadd Aug 20 '26 edited Aug 20 '26
You yourself is showing in your screenshot that those 40% seats are unreserved, how can you say that those seats are for general only, why it is so difficult to understand, Just for your info those 40% seats could be occupied by anyone not just generals. In fact these are the seats that gets filled based on the marks alone and the remaining ones are filled based on marks but with in that particular category.
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u/-Kang-The-Conqueror- Aug 19 '26
You can't do shit with 60 percentile even with sc st quota
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u/Wonderful_Corgi4805 Aug 19 '26
My friend with 87 persentile(st) is doing cse in an top 15 nit and i am in a private college with 91.persentile
He is allot richer than me
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u/a_lit_bruh Aug 23 '26
"i am in a private college with 91.persentile"
You should think about this second half only bro. And really ask the government why is 91% not enough to get me a good education in my preferred branch?
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u/Humble_Medicine837 Aug 19 '26
General people are trying hard to remove reservation but people don't even understand that even law making parliament has reservation and Supreme court do follows reservation... So it simply says nothing can be done till caste and caste based violence exists... If u really want to remove reservation create a equal society where every Hindus will be Hindu .....
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u/Needtoknowmyopenion Aug 19 '26
And I born in that category (not having reservation nor name) guess the category 😅
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u/Clean_Neck_2883 Aug 19 '26
imangine being born and govt takes your land because you are born in "right category"
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u/Forsaken-Garage-676 Aug 20 '26
Bro honestly, don't waste time arguing with people who say this meme is wrong {yes this is ai slop but i wont waste time editing when i can have an idea and get this done for free like most of them the people downgrading it with addressing the msg and thought ) .
actual stats:
Cutoff math doesn't lie: For JEE Main, General cutoff sits around ~93 percentile, while ST cutoff drops down to ~47 percentile.
The 99th percentile struggle: A General student with 99 percentile (~14,000 rank) gets rejected from top IIT branches, while reserved category seats for those exact same branches go to candidates with way lower overall ranks.
Not just engineering: Same story in NEET and UPSC—unreserved candidates get squeezed out while lower percentile scores pull through in reserved categories.
Moral of the story? Studying 14 hours a day for 2 years was a massive skill issue on our part. Should've just selected a better spawn point on the character creation screen 💀
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u/a_lit_bruh Aug 23 '26
you are putting in efforts to say essentially this:
Only general people should study
SC/ST people should not have educaiton
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u/noobsir_G Aug 20 '26
Id u can't even edit a meme on a meme template . I doubt if u can even pass sc cutoff
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u/extramasalapls Aug 20 '26
Apparently every advantage is acceptable as long as it benefits me. The moment equity benefits someone else, suddenly everyone discovers a deep commitment to meritocracy :)
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u/SpiritAdmirable1254 Aug 20 '26
Then everyone asks why is China ahead. Because merit is suppressed.
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u/dancing_dih Aug 22 '26
Why people are noticing ai instead of his point ( this is what happens when u cant defend ur side ) 😭😭
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u/NoChallenge988 Aug 23 '26
People when they dont have any argument against facts are the ones who do the bull shih (This is AI so wrong) type coments
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u/PhysicalVirus9414 Aug 22 '26
Iam an upper caste born person but i support reservation.
I will tell story. He is from lower caste. We went too our classmates home (we went there many times) Once his mother asked about our family and all .also casually asked our caste. We were 3 friends excluding there son 2 of as are from uppercaste.And my other friend also said his caste casually they acted normal that time.After this insident whenever the lower caste friend is with us they don't call us inside the house even our friend(there som).when he is not there the give food and call us inside.
And if any of you take look at the hiring pattern of companies expect MNC they usually don't hire people's from lower caste (idk is it internally or unintentionally)
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u/Any_Idea_1551 Aug 23 '26
Same can be said for caste. Just born in higher ones give you more privilege and then cry about why lower castes are pushing against you.
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u/Adventurous_Tip8468 Aug 23 '26
99 percentile and still no understanding of how reservation/admissions actually work. That’s the real skill issue
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u/abhashmadd Aug 19 '26
All the people asking remove caste, can you please suggest a way to do so?
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u/iamThebitbyte Aug 19 '26
Make laws, punish people for being casteist.... Oh wait we are already doing that. How about increasing reservation that will surely end it..
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u/ProfessionalRatio848 Aug 19 '26
We even have r@pe laws
Did it solve the r@pe problem?
Even with laws each year cases of r@pe are reported more than 30000.
Increasing reservation is just an idiotic statement passed by people like you.
Caste is a mindset problem , the mindset of people should change and removal of surnames will do the work.
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u/ProfessionalRatio848 Aug 19 '26
Removing surnames
Removing this superiority and inferiority mindsets based on birth
The identification of a person as superior or inferior on the basis of an accident of birth needs to go away.
Removing Caste is more of a mindset change.
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u/ppknm Aug 20 '26
Remove caste from birth certificate, school leaving certificate, create program in school against casteism, strict laws against casteism, ban on using caste related remarks in public places, arrange inclusive religious programs, etc.
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u/a_lit_bruh Aug 23 '26
When population truly lets go of castiest mindset.
- normalization of inter caste marriage. The one and only true step that makes "caste" irrelevant. The only and only step that can help share privilege, wealth, and social capital.
- Every institute inside India: politics, bureaucracy, business, education, etc have representation of various communities proportional to their % of pop i.e., if I take all the professors of MBA edu in India, if 25% of the are SC/ST then they are represented proportionally to their population.
- At which point, cut-offs of different communities dont have much difference
My opinion is that it would 1-2 more generations for this to happen naturally. Reservations will naturally fade out when enough SC/ST people go through schooling and compete for the seats among themselves.... the competition itself will make cutoffs moot and reservation irrelevant. Like its with OBC most cases
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u/CellOk1789 Aug 19 '26
Score -40/800 and become a Orthopadic Surgeon. While 750/800 gets no Admission. Jai Jai Jai Jai Bhim
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Aug 20 '26
bhai kisi ne propaganda chala diya tumne maan liya. Jaa kar ek baar cut off dekhna general wale ko bhi same cut off par mil raha tha. Samjhdar bano, sach dekho
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u/CellOk1789 Aug 21 '26
Yehi toh baat hai....Bhai cutoff same ho toh , caste based reservation ki kya jaroor rat hai. Come show your talent and skill with your Brains? Jai Bhim
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u/Jack-DeSparrow Aug 20 '26
15% for Scheduled Castes (SC), 7.5% for Scheduled Tribes (ST), 27% for Other Backward Classes (OBC-NCL), and 10% for the Economically Weaker Section (GEN-EWS).
Creamy layer has been introduced for OBC and EWS for economically weaker people. So atleast OBC and EWS are having economical based reservations. People are yapping about the other 22.5%, reserved for SC/ST even when they are heavily discriminated in present also.
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u/ppknm Aug 20 '26
It's time to exchange SC ST reservation. SC community made it to the mainstream but ST community still not developed proper representation in any section of the society.
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u/ruh0519 Aug 19 '26
Then ask for removal of cast and treat everyone equally and then try all of them 🌚
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u/Accomplished-Wish431 Aug 19 '26
The greatest blunder of modern India is sanjay gandhi's failure to sterilise you guys
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u/Emergency_Seat_4817 Aug 19 '26
Ling puja, gobar sevan se time mil jata hai toh thoda sa apne Stupidity ka prachaar kar deta hai. Saada jeevan gomootra vichaar.
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u/just_harsh12 Aug 19 '26
Ab ye jo tumne bola ye nhi hai casteism oh sorry bhul gya tha ki aap log kro toh empowerment koi aur kre to casteism.🙌
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u/Tricky_Crew8320 Aug 19 '26
"Tell me you failed to clear the general cutoff without telling me you failed to clear the general cutoff. 🤣
Bro spent 2 years 'studying hard' but still couldn't manage to find a meme format newer than 2015 to complain with.🤡
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u/FabulousMenace Aug 19 '26
No comment on the topic, but what's the correlation of studying hard with an outdated meme format ? Seems like a cheap personal-ish attack, instead of contributing to the argument in any way 🤷♂️
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u/Diligent-Look-3821 Aug 19 '26
Brainwash people into believing hierarchy, discrimination, fixed position in society .
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Aug 20 '26
Jab koi bacha ladkho ka donation de kar, ya fir leaked paers ka sahara le kar seat le leta hai tab gaand nahi fatti. Lekin jaise hi reservation ki baat aa jaye sone aa jate hai
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u/NoChallenge988 Aug 23 '26
Abe gendu wo to fir financial ki baat hui na. How does this statement of yours justify CASTE based reservation ??
That baccha is able to do donation because he is rich. Even an SC ST can be rich. Your argument is senseless
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u/Successful-Plenty389 Aug 20 '26
60 percentile pe admission nahi hota admission sc st ka 90 se upar hi hota hai nit wagera me anpad
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u/No_Leading_1938 Aug 22 '26
kya jhuth faila raha hai, mere pehchaan mei ek bande ka 80-85 mein hua tha
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u/AntiqueRecording8009 frustrated genius Aug 20 '26
abe lodu, i really hate this oversimplification, some dude comes and thinks he is the pioneer of ideas and then posts something like this, read
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u/Specialist_Row_7434 Aug 20 '26
1-Do you know how many seats are reserved? 2- The difference between cutoff and actual percentile needed to get selected? 3- No. of years getting oppressed by your so called upper caste ancestors. 4- The no. of people from sc/st community in government job and other. 5- Even today people like you ask caste and community details to marry or everything else.
The problem is not in the reservation system the problem is in the people like you who think getting 27-30% reserved for the children of people who got oppressed by your ancestors and who never got the education pr any opportunities coz your ancestors were gobbling up all the jobs, knowledge, lands and what not and now when people from sc/st are trying to catchup with some help from the government people like you are crying oven some percentage of reservation. And if your going to argue why I should support/suffer coz of your ancestors oppression then donate or leave all the property you got inherited from your ancestors too.
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u/Proud-Ear8890 Aug 21 '26
Accha jiii...... awwwwww Everyone knows about just 25% of a religion are holding 60% going upto 75% of government teir A jobs. Not only jobs it goes everywhere while exceptions are also there. Please correct me if I am wrong to improve my understanding.
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u/AlabasterRad fake Aug 22 '26
I love you op🙂 I'll never become a doctor cause I'm not from sc st or from low cutoff states
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u/Sudden_Button_8384 Aug 24 '26
U had facilities to study for generations and still cant get general cut off u can fk off
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u/Obvious_Drive2324 Aug 23 '26
Allow anyone to move to brahmin and upward castes. That will remove casteism and eventually reservations. That's the only solution to this problem.
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u/destruct999 Aug 23 '26
Your JEE syllabus has nothing to do with B.E./B.TECH Degree. Every one has to pass each class in B.E/B.TECH to get the degree in 8th semester. ST, SC , GENERAL, OBC all have to pass all the semesters.
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u/ReadyFirefighter7395 Aug 23 '26
Both sides arguments are quite solid. I don't think I can cause impact on it but before talking about reservation and casteism I just want to ask one question to everyone one,
’How many of you have read Indian Literature more than once outside the textbooks?’
We all are interested in western and other literature but never our own. If you think you are mature enough, I would highly recommend reading Indian Literature specially from writers like Premchand, Phanishwar Nath Renu, Rajendra Yadav, Bheeshma Sahni and Any other Indian Literature. Doesn't matter which writer or language you prefer but read from old literature like from 1900s. You might thinks it's unnecessary but once you do, you will realise something.
(Anyway please don't read romance)
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u/JJ_45264 Aug 23 '26
Yk they are not going to get placed with a package even half compared to any bright candidate
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u/Livid-End-3802 Aug 23 '26
Work hard and earn the money ❌ Use caste to benefit off cheap labour and exploit lower caste ✅
Note: this is applicable for older generation and I'm an extremist so i believe in tit for tat and honestly poor sc/st people haven't even received tat yet.
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u/Dear_Market_3356 Aug 23 '26
Pehle tum hi log Brahman thakur zamidar unko paani nhi peene dete the ab bhukto khud hi yaad ho toh unke chune se a pavtir ho jaate the bhukto ab reservation ye tumhare purvajo ki hi galti bhukto ab koi bhi party reservation chuyi toh wo satta se bahar sab jante ye
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u/NoChallenge988 Aug 23 '26
Tumlog rote raho un chizo ke liye jo ekdum illegal hai like untochability aur ye sab decades ago hota tha. Why should a child suffer from reservation ?? Also what proof do you have that all so called UC people discriminated against you ?? Why should all general people suffer ??
Casteism is a mindset problem. You still have a victim mindset for things that you didnt even have to face. Why should I loose my opportunity to get an IIT just because your great grandpa suffered ??
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u/Waste-Singer4769 Aug 23 '26
What crap is this?. Trying being born in wrong caste and enjoy it's results
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u/suttalover Aug 24 '26
Treat them as equals in all things then if you dont like reservations
- Remove castism
- Improve education for poor
Until we can fix the above reservation becomes mandatory if we want those communities to have any chance in life.
So imo yes reservation is bad but the above two are at the root of that problem.
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u/somerandomidiot99 Aug 24 '26
That is why there is braindrain.
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u/Forsaken-Garage-676 Aug 24 '26
Finally what happens when general category relinquish there citizenship
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u/kumbidi_lfc Aug 24 '26
Being born in the wrong catogary and the police around you see you below them 🤣
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u/TheMystery7x Aug 24 '26
Can't even make a post without using ai and you still wonder why you are unemployable
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u/Armin-12 Aug 24 '26
Sure but no one talks about management quota and fake EWS certificates.
Government colleges like IIT, IIM, NIT, AIIMS are producing meritorious students even with reservation, providing opportunities to all categories while most private college passouts from management quota and high caste connections are not as employable. Why so? Its really not about merit, it's about representation. An SC ST OBC scoring 70-80 from a poor background is Huge, they'd do wonders if they had mainstream respect. And as of so called "rich dalits", if they had merit to cross General cutoff even then they'd be refused admission without reservation as upper castes control admission and recruitments. They favor their own caste. A dalit person got 2nd rank and was still refused admission in BHU, that's the meritocracy you're talking about??? The only reason any dalit gets admission is because there's a law for that, otherwise they'll always keep getting low marks in interviews and exams conducted by upper castes who are uncomfortable to have a dalit as an equal.
I don't want reservation to exist, buy for that caste needs to be completely eradicated and uprooted and caste pride should be criminal offence.
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u/CressBitter391 Aug 24 '26
It's very easy sitting on AC rrom with proper house ,come visit real reservation candidates ,even one day you will not last .No roads ,no electricity,no water only forest with miles to walk for to reach school. Bunch of idiots selfish people
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u/Own_Philosopher_8814 Aug 25 '26
This is like saying Working hard all life and earning own money Vs being born in a rich family
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