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u/a_left_out_tomato 7h ago

Can you guys give dragon age to Larian first?

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u/Dhenn004 7h ago

Now THAT would be cool. Though only if they want to. No forced projects. Its how we end up with anthem lol

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u/a_left_out_tomato 7h ago

Baldur's gate 3 and Divinity original sin 2 were like, exactly what I wanted for a dragon age sequel. It's like Larian sucked the freakin soul out of Bioware.

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u/ArnUpNorth 7h ago

Came to leave that to exact comment

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u/hibikir_40k 7h ago

I think both of those would have been significantly better with a more japanese-style ruleset. The US-styled games just turn into a min-maxing fiesta by design, where you have choices, but some will make the game unplayable, or trivially easy, and you better be lucky figuring out how much effort to put into builds while avoiding both edges.

That's why something thinner, like what Bioware did, works better when you are being computer centric. Don't ask people to blindly select perks or powers that might be very useful, or downright useless, based on what happens later in the game, when you've not played the game. It all works fine on pen and paper, as the DM will change things to balance out people's choices. But in a computer game with none of that, it's just filling the game with pitfalls.

Not that every company making their own system does it well: See the horrors of Bethesda's leveling systems, which each fail in a different way, but never actually work well. But it's possible to do something that mostly works, and Bioware was doing much better than most.

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u/a_left_out_tomato 7h ago

I don't care about balance I care about is it fun and are the characters worth caring about. Bg3 is both

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u/TakenBacon90 7h ago

Larian actually treating Dragon Age as the dark and gritty universe it is would be fucking peak.

I'd be so down.

Also, hot take but I would rather play a turn based Dragon Age game than a real time with pause one.

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u/SpiritFingersKitty 7h ago

Man, Larian didn't even take on a BG3 expansion/DLC. You can't make them do anything they don't want to

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u/West-Tough-4552 7h ago

Unfortunately it will just die and rot away

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u/Upbeat_Trainer 7h ago

Dragon Age hasn't been good since the first one.

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u/Stiltsdajumz 7h ago

L take, Inquisition was good even if it wasn't everyone's cup of tea

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u/Upbeat_Trainer 7h ago

Nah, it wasnt.

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u/Rigor_Mortis1993 7h ago

Lmao no, Inquisition was a polished turd while Origins was a true gem.

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u/registered_wo_emailU 4h ago

L take, Inquisition wasn’t good even if it was your cup of tea

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u/Xanny 4h ago

I liked 2. It was rushed and short but i had fun playing it throughout. 

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u/enthusiasticdave 7h ago

That's actually true when you really think about it

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u/cyne-wolf 2h ago

Dragon Age fans are genuinely the most annoying shits on the Internet, because they refuse to admit they're just DAO fans and actually hate the franchise.

DAI is literally the best selling BioWare game. Not the best selling DA game; the best selling BioWare title period. It won 130 GOTY awards and was critically acclaimed. Saying it's bad is objectively a stupid take.

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u/Hump-Daddy 1h ago

While I personally like DAI a lot, it won all of those awards in a very weak year. It likely wouldn’t have been nominated if it came a year earlier or later. Its overindulgent side quests and pursuit of a huge world map held it back. Thankfully the writing was S tier though, especially Trespasser.

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u/TrueBasedGamer 7h ago

Why? They would just made another divinity game and slap the name Dragon Age on it, just like with Baldur's Gate (not saying it's a bad game, just that it's more divinity than baldur's gate).

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u/SagittaryX 50m ago

Had a similar weird thing in another thread were someone said they thought BG3 was a spiritual successor to Dragon Age Origins.

Having played all those games, BG3 is just a successor to Original Sin 2 in everything except for setting/story.

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u/Current_Ranger_7954 6h ago

EA would never do that. They want nobody making money out of it

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u/a_left_out_tomato 6h ago

Icluding themselves, evidently

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u/Desperate-Fix-1486 4h ago

I think Larian is done playing second fiddle to someone else’s story, and Larian won’t touch a publisher/partner like EA with 50 foot stick. That’s the dream though, do your own stories and have your own thoughts, and BG3 gave them the money to do that.

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u/chimpsyBobbins 3h ago

There was a time when I would've been really sad about the prospect of no more Dragon Age games, but I feel like this IP has run its course.

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u/thelastcamel 7h ago

Yes, let's band together to force talent developers with their own unique vision make Nth game from the old IP they didn't create and have no control over so we can suck all the passion from said developers.

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u/EnamoredAlpaca 7h ago

As much as I like Larian, I feel dragon age should be action rpg oriented. Origins was fantastic, and while the combat evolved with Dragon age the stories failed to match.

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u/hurlcarl 6h ago

Naw... I mean dragon age was good early on, but in the end it's an IP about dwarves and elves and dragons. I'd MUCH rather see Larian take a shot at the Mass Effect IP.