r/pcmasterrace • u/Away-Huckleberry9967 • 1d ago

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u/STAHLSERIE 19h ago

When did you first hear of AI and how long ago? What has changed since then? Mate, this is still just the beginning. It's pretty much alpha/beta.

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u/thedirtymeanie 16h ago

which is a great time to shut it down and burn it to the ground. lets keep humans employed and in charge. at least we a have chance of holding them accountable.

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u/Frequent_Ad_9901 13h ago

You could have said the same thing about the internet. Wait. Actually yeah lets burn that down too.

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u/vitek6 16h ago

how would you like to that? You can't ban AI in the whole world. What would that even mean? How to define it?

You just simply can't stop it so prepare to live in a world with it.

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u/Ctitical1nstinct 15h ago

These people can't see even 1 year in to the future. Like yes, let's stop all progress so then foreign countries blow North America and Europe out of the water in terms of progress. If it were up to these people, we'd still be pulling farm equipment around by hand just to keep people employed. Sound familiar?

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u/midnight_guard99 4h ago

You two are so clueless it's painful. We literally legislated NUCLEAR WEAPONS across the whole world; thinking that we should just keep throwing money at grifters to develop technology most people don't need in their lives (not to mention dumb comparison with actually useful tools like farm equipment) is just hilarious.

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u/mintoreos 2h ago

But.. we didnt? The people we don't want having nuclear weapons either have nuclear weapons or are building them. Its just a treaty and if you dont agree with it you just build em.

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u/midnight_guard99 4h ago

You can legislate that corporations need to clear all the data they have trained on without permissions otherwise they will pay huge penalties. Make it retroactive. It's not that hard.

"How would you stop slavery? You simply can't stop it so prepare to live in a world with it." - this is how your argument would sound few centuries ago. If people thought changes were impossible no one would ever do something meaningful.

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u/vitek6 3h ago

If you didn’t write second paragraph I would respond but you decided to actually use such idiotic argument that I find discussion with you pointless.

Now write how I don’t have arguments and get lost.

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u/United_Monitor_5674 16h ago

let's solve world hunger and end all wars while we're at it

Pandora is out the box dude

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u/VegetableOne7261 13h ago

Yeah the amount of blind idealists I see on Reddit is sickening.

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u/AyissaCrowett 12h ago

I think people are asking for regulations, not just straight up banning AI

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u/Officialedmart 12h ago

motherfucker said “which is a great time to shut it down and burn it to the ground”

so no, they arent

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u/trenlr911 3h ago

It’s too late for that. Looking into more sustainable ways of utilizing ai is the only way forward. Advocating against the global use of ai is a waste of your lifespan

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u/RefrigeratorDry2669 12h ago

First hold that billionaire human trafficking circle accountable and then we'll continue this discussion

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u/insanelyniceperson 10h ago

AlphaFold is enough to justify it. Am I happy with the industry or at least believe that a lot of good things will come for all of us? Hell no.

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u/jack-in-spades 6h ago

Employment is usually like life sentence. You're so brainwashed by capitalism you want us to do jobs lol. Only a tiny % of people would still work despite not needing to. I guess some can't handle freedom, and have 0 personal interests/passion. People should still be responsible, but AI can make certain tasks much more efficient and basic planning a bit more streamlined. It can also completely remove certain aspects of work in a reasonable and understandable fashion. It is only a tool.

Also, if it ends up killing us all...it is only a side-effect. What is killing is our need for more. You are very likely using more energy and resources than the average person, probably a lot more if you are from the EU or Amercian. I defintely use more than the average person. AI is merely a symptom of bigger problems. The environmental stuff going on has little to do with what AI has done recently.

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u/jerrygreenest1 1h ago

I would actually be fine with being unemployed if there was a plan on increasing my quality of life while being unemployed. Unfortunately there isn’t such plan so getting unemployed can get you into a pretty bad state so it’s normal to fear unemployment.

What I’m trying to say, the world didn’t prepare for having humans unemployed as a normal state. That’s the real issue. Just unemployment by itself under certain circumstances can be a blessing. We people just didn’t think of it really, or more so, the owners of the world didn’t think of it. They planned to use us all the available time as much as possible.

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u/ActuallyFullOfShit 22m ago

That is not how anything has ever worked since the industrial revolution.

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u/No-Promise26 15h ago

That's some backwards thinking. Our end goal as a society should be that noone has to work ever again. And people have all the free time they want to practice their favourite sport, do arts and crafts or other fun stuff. Every job AI takes will be a win to society. We just have to figure out what to do with all the unemployed people. Would not even be that hard. If we could stop giving all the money in the world to the already top 200 richest people on earth, that would be a good start.

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u/landyc 13h ago

You are contradicting yourself by saying me should embrace ai but stop giving the richest people on earth our money. Who do you think is gaining money and power in the ai boom. Lmao.

“We just need to figure out what to do with unemployed people”
Yeah that sounds like a foolproof plan you got there.

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u/RadanRrodin 9h ago

nonsense

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u/Beardywierdy 16h ago

You can absolutely hold AI companies accountable.

Sure, governments don't want to but they don't like holding humans responsible either. Unless they're poor.

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u/Not_a_real_ghost 13h ago

This is like saying, "Let's destroy calculators so we can return maths to its original form."

The right way to develop AI is as a tool, not as a God.

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u/le_Mate 16h ago

Let's burn down factories and keep guilds employed

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u/seams 15h ago

Oh hell yeah, this is like my 4th time hearing this exact line. First by blockchain enthusiasts, then folks big on crypto, then nfts.

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u/STAHLSERIE 13h ago

Is blockchain, crypto, nfts also something everyone of your family has probably heard of and even used themselves atleast once? Great comparison, it must take the same route!

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u/seams 13h ago

everyone of your family has probably heard of

Yes?? There were superbowl ads my dude

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u/STAHLSERIE 13h ago

Another playing dumb, oh well. Okay I'll make it short: 49% of American adults have used an AI chat bot atleast once so far in 2026 according to pew research. Is that comparable to the other named tech?

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u/seams 13h ago

Ok?

Is that comparable to the other named tech?

Yes? Do you seriously think Crypto is some kind of Niche unknown tech or something? Your grandma has probably heard of Bitcoin lol. There wee tons of ads for it, stadiums got renamed after crypto companies. Again, there were crypto superbowl commercials.

Were you in a coma for the last 10 years or something?

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u/STAHLSERIE 13h ago

Reading comprehension. I'm not a native speaker but bro my comment was clear as can be.

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u/seams 13h ago

I'm not a native speaker

I mean obviously because you asked a question, I answered clearly twice, and you've left confused by a simple "yes" both times haha

Yes, crypto was extremely popular. Yes it's very comparable lol

"Is this comparable?"

"Yes it is"

"Wowow reading comprehension issues?!"

Lmao

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u/STAHLSERIE 13h ago

Reading comprehension, mate. You need to read more careful. You didn't. I won't reply until you do and realize what you did not get before.

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u/seams 13h ago

You're not good at this friend.

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u/Officialedmart 12h ago

serious question, are you mentally slow? you’re drawing a connection between a
glorified pyramid scheme of monkey jpegs gaining value based on artificial scarcity (via “block chain”).. and technology that can code powerful software for people, answer frontier math problems and other questions?

like… you have to be deliberately obtuse?? whats the fucking similarity, they both use computers ? idiot

what can a grandma do with an NFT? fucking jack shit turns out.

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u/seams 12h ago

Get that all out of your system? Feel better?

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u/Officialedmart 12h ago

its all correct lmfao, thinking theyre similar is pure cope

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u/Unhappy_Pack_9114 14h ago

Hardware ain't even found ways to solve AI bottlenecks. The next 5 years will be the acceleration of AI.

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u/VinceGhii 14h ago

Yeah, ahm… actually no. This started 3–5 years ago. We might already be getting close to the point where more money, time, and resources buy us smaller and smaller improvements. We could be somewhere in the middle, or even near the end of what the current approach can do… unless someone comes up with a great idea to push past those limits.

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u/Shot-Zebra1868 13h ago

I don’t understand this. AI has had more investment than any other tech in our lifetimes. You can hardly call it alpha.

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u/STAHLSERIE 13h ago

Which other tech is comparable to AI and the vision the big names in the industry have? You can hardly compare it to anything that has been developed in our lifetime

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u/Shot-Zebra1868 8h ago

At this stage both internet and social media have had a far larger impact on society. That could change but life feels very similiar to 2020 to me.

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u/STAHLSERIE 18h ago

Don't play dumb mate. Why so salty? When did you hear about AI as a tool, eg Chatgpt? How long ago was that? What has changed since then?

BTW "what has changed? Not much" lol now you're just trolling

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u/Commercial_Spray4279 18h ago

I'm asking since you seem to think LLMs are all AI. So "When did you hear about AI" depends on what you actually mean. LLMs? Probably around 2007.

All AI? Pre 2000. Hell, I've been training my first neural network in 2011.

Why are you asking at all?

> BTW "what has changed? Not much" lol now you're just trolling

The models have been plateauing for some time now Tooling has improved, sure, but there is a reason the labs are gaming the benchmarks.

If the models weren't plateauing the labs wouldn't feel the need to throw compute at it to appear like they are improving considerably.

How much have you used *all* AI? Have you trained your own models?

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u/STAHLSERIE 17h ago

I don't think that, the vast majority of the users does. When regular people talk about AI they're talking about LLMs in most cases. Namely Chatgpt, gemini, Claude etc. That shouldn't be news tho. But ye, didn't know you studied AI. I understand that your understanding of the terms is different. Regarding LLM's I'm just a dumb user. My field is an other.

So to be more specific: you're straight up downplaying the fact that we went from simple chat bots to text-to-video and similar gimmicks (REA, OpenClaw,..) in a matter of a few years ("not much changed") FOR END CONSUMERS. That's wild

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u/Commercial_Spray4279 17h ago

We're in a tech sub, so I asked to find out what you mean.

You're ignoring the immense compute the labs are throwing at it. I also never said there weren't real advances, I've said that the models have plateaued and all gains since then were due to tooling.

To go back to an earlier question: When will we not be "early" anymore?

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u/STAHLSERIE 16h ago

Better ask Nvidia, anthropic, openai,... It's just funny to demand for something like REA and similar to work flawlessly after very first projects hit the media. It's like review bombing early access games for being buggy.

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u/Commercial_Spray4279 16h ago

I'm not exclusively asking REA and this project. I'm asking for *any* proof of your claim.

Also... Anthropic? They leaked their source code *twice*....

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u/Successful-Scale-607 16h ago

Dario and Sam said they're gonna build me a wife 😞

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u/STAHLSERIE 13h ago

Which claim? You asked where the FLAWLESS REVERSE ENGINEERED PROGRAMS are. I've told you that's a bullshit question to ask when this kind of tool is new.

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u/Commercial_Spray4279 13h ago

> You asked where the FLAWLESS REVERSE ENGINEERED PROGRAMS are

Didn't I ask wehre the flawless secure programs are? Did I specify reverse engineered somewhere? If yes then I apologize.

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u/No_Swordfish_4159 13h ago

Well we went from AI barely being able to produce boilerplate code to AI being able to compete with human experts in many areas. In 4 years. It will be "early" until we stop seeing incredible jumps in capabilities every 6 months.

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u/Commercial_Spray4279 13h ago

All I'm asking for is proof

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u/No_Swordfish_4159 13h ago edited 13h ago

If you want flawless and secure reverse engineered programs you're asking for something that's superhuman. Reverse engineering is extremely hard and "perfect security" in programs is the same, especially now that hacking has become assisted by AI to find vulnerabilities. AI is not at that level yet, obviously. But it's getting there. AI capabilities are spiky, unlike humans, meaning it can be very good at one thing and poor at another, seemingly related thing. This makes it so that, currently and on average, AI is at the level of a junior programmer with a lot of knowledge. On the higher ends it is as good or better than an expert, and on the lower end it makes junior mistakes.

Look at reverse engineered video games and software. We unlocked that capability in the last 2 months with the newer models. It's still not very good but it's leaps ahead of what was possible a year ago.

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u/Commercial_Spray4279 13h ago

> If you want flawless and secure reverse engineered programs you're asking about something that's superhuman

The labs are literally advertising it as superhuman.

> AI is not at that level yet, obviously.

Glad we agree.

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u/No_Swordfish_4159 13h ago edited 13h ago

The labs are literally selling you their product. Obviously they're going to hype it up to the moon. It's probably a good idea, when someone is selling you something, to expect a core of truth surrounded by marketing bullshit. And AI is superhuman... in some things. AI labs are just hyping up the successes and ignoring the failures to make their product look better than it is.

The core of truth here is that capabilities are growing very fast, and that superhuman capabilities appear to be on the horizon within a few years if pace is maintained.

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u/Ok-Lawyer6864 14h ago

4 years is still beta

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u/STAHLSERIE 13h ago

You know star citizen? Hehe

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u/Jealous-Ad5952 14h ago

Mache dir nicht die Mühe, das ist reiner Eskapismus, die werden das erst alles begreifen, wenn es nicht mehr zu leugnen ist

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u/ElPeloPolla 12h ago

Trillions and trillions spent on a product that its still in alpha/beta is called a failure