r/pcmasterrace • • 15d ago

News/Article The PS5 system itself is running on pc

Recently, we have seen massive developments in PS5 emulators (such as shadPS4 and Kyty), and how rapidly they have progressed in a short period.

​Now, developers have successfully booted the actual PS5 system software on PC.

​If this momentum continues in the future, it will eventually allow players to run PS5 exclusives directly on PC, marking the end of the era of console exclusivity.

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u/DogWithaFAL 15d ago

I’m not a coder so take it as an idiot speaking, but from the outside looking in it’s like the boyfriend being scared of the vibrator. You should be ally’s not enemies.

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u/Suuldam 15d ago

That's mostly it, but with a vibrator that knows your habits and will vibrate to your liking automatically. But sometimes it will also try to enter the wrong hole, and that's where you shine, preventing backdoor usage.

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u/EquivalentPlatform17 R7 5800X3D | RX 9070XT | 32 GB 15d ago

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u/Capitan_Scythe 15d ago

Upvoted for such a poetic description.

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u/cannibalcat 15d ago

I would change the last line with "sometimes it will also try to hit you violently" 

be more inclusive, a lot of people actually like the backdoor

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u/Chudpaladin 15d ago

The vibrator is no better than me SMH

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u/Queens113 5800X3D. B550. SN850. 32GB CL16 3600MHZ. 7800XT. LG 27GP83B. 15d ago

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u/Mothanius 15d ago

The double entendre on back door is chef's kiss.

But they are trying to replace coders with AI Agents.

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u/mugiwara_no_Soissie 15d ago

A good coder understands that its just a tool line any other

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u/SpacePumpkie I use Arch btw 15d ago edited 15d ago

A good human being understands that the real problem is how the companies are managing the shit and closing access and charging an entry fee to what always has been publicly accesible information. Heck, even all the research on LLMs and GPTs was done publicly mainly in tandem with university researchers until OpenAI closed it off because they saw profit and kicked off the race in private (but not after having taken advantage of what everyone else was doing out in the open).

All this tech should be one hundred percent open sourced because the models were taken from the open research community, the knowledge for training was taken from the open internet and all previous created works, and now they charge for access and don't give anything back to humanity's pool of knowledge. Instead they're trying to keep it gated and charge for access to it. After having taken all they could for free (and illegally).

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u/No_Brother1599 15d ago

Open weight models are available. The only barrier to entry is the cost of hardware

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u/SpacePumpkie I use Arch btw 15d ago edited 15d ago

The open weight models are nowhere near the level of the closed ones. And the cost of the hardware is currently astronomical due to these companies' antics. The hardware needed to run a proper non-quant model is close to 10k currently anyway.

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u/XavinNydek PC Master Race 15d ago

Open weight models are a few months behind, but a year or two ago we started reaching the point where the models were good enough for various tasks so it's not that big a deal. Even in the frontier models the emphasis is switching from better performance to better efficiency.

The no sign the improvements in hardware or model efficiency are slowing down, so In a few more years pretty much everyone will be able to run coding models, image gen, etc on their local machines/phones. The subscription models will be relegated to enterprise environments with management and compliance requirements unless they come up with some other always online hooks that the open models and tools can't easily do (or if they get cheap enough that it's just easier).

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u/SpacePumpkie I use Arch btw 15d ago

I hope you're right. I don't share your optimism currently and I despise the way these companies are being able to do whatever they want. But I hope you're right.

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u/No_Brother1599 15d ago

Indeed, the industry appears to be quite disgusting.

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u/PhaserFister 15d ago

That's not really true anymore (level disparity).

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u/BoopinSnoots24-7 15d ago

They're not charging an entry fee to the information. The information is public. What they're charging for is their models, which are so far removed from the initial public research on LLMs that is like comparing a Ford Model T to a modern day Ferrari.

AI companies charging you to use their product makes perfect sense. The only economic problem is them not sharing revenue with those who created the data they train on.

Even then, it's not that straightforward. If you post your art on Instagram, Meta owns that data. If you post on Reddit, Reddit owns that data. If AI labs were to compensate their sources, the vast majority of that would go towards private companies who you willingly already provide your data/work to.

There is no precedent for this level of scope, and it doesn't seem like there is really a feasible approach yet to compensating individuals. I do hope they figure it out soon.

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u/Frisnfruitig Specs/Imgur here 15d ago

For now...

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u/RedditAdmnsSkDk 15d ago

as long as it's not foreign controlled yes, otherwise it most definitely isn't "just a tool like any other"

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u/mugiwara_no_Soissie 15d ago

I mean so is google itself lol. Plenty of countries dont have access to the google or socials that we do. And plenty of stuff is already being censored/enshittified. Like I do agree with you totally but this is the just an AI issue, more a general issue in modern society.

Hell, I use Tor just bc I despise the way google handles their shit

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u/RedditAdmnsSkDk 15d ago

well, it's also not "just a tool like any other" in the aspect of copyright (or much more copyleft when it comes to software)

it's a very problematic "tool" and reducing it to be "just like all the others" is not cool at all, especially if you are aware of some of the issue (as you seem to be)

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u/xaxis-yaxis 15d ago

This is actually entirely meaningless when the entire junior/grad market has basically been annihilated over the last few years.

There's a fraction of jobs at that level compared to 5 years ago. Coders aren't so scared of AI in that they don't know how to use it, they're better than basically everyone else at it, but because companies are cutting jobs for AI.

You can't be a software engineer if there's not enough jobs for software engineers.

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u/MDParagon AORUS X870M | 9800X3D | 5070Ti | 16x2GB 6400MT/s 15d ago

lmao that is a brilliant analogy

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u/oneanotheruser 15d ago

Imagine a carpenter that enjoys working with wood and spent all his life mastering his craft. Then someone invents a machine that does all the carpenting autimatically.

Sure it makes mistakes. Not many people care. And working without the machine is not reallly legible anymore because it's that much more fast. Now your job as a carpenter is to talk to a machine so that it makes something instead of you.

Sure some people will say it's just a tool that they will now use instead. But I personally don't see myself being a programmer in the era of AI. For me vibecoding feels as much different from coding as dancing. And I don't really see myself in any other profession that isn't being consumed by AI.

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u/BoxOfDemons PC Master Race 15d ago

It's more akin to if you're a carpenter, and you still plan and draw out the build, mark every nail spot, and the tool just hammers the nails for you. At least with actual competent coders using AI.

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u/ukiyoe 15d ago

Good vibes only.