r/masseffect • • 8h ago

NEWS It’s over

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Well, that’s that then

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u/Gebghis 6h ago

This btw is exactly the same reason why people keep getting surprised when Obsidian releases a dud. The Obsidian they knew is again largely not there. With pretty much just the exception of Sawyer, who tbf did make the fantastic Pentiment

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u/Impossible-Flight250 5h ago

That's actually not true. Most of the leads of New Vegas are with the studio. It's not hard to look up.

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u/commissar-117 6h ago

Yep. But that's the thing about video games. They are collaborative efforts. You have a whole team of writers, teams of artists, cults of coders, etc. When we get a good game, it's because the leads had a good idea and they all do their job. When we get great games from the same studio repeatedly to the point they become a legend, it's because the whole group had chemistry together that allowed them to make something greater than the sum of its parts. That was always the Bioware magic, and Obsidian is no exception to the rule either.

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u/Gebghis 6h ago

That kinda applies to everything up to like sports because that does take quite a physical element still. One person with a good head on their shoulders tends to make all the difference.

Say what you want about Bethesda, or even just Todd Howard in particular, but you need crazy unaging bastards like him to make those games. As someone who has yet to be really disappointed by them, his retirement will finally make me worry.

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u/Spare_Elderberry_418 6h ago

I am more cautiously optimistic that Sawyer is heading the new Fallout. Pentiment shows that Sawyer still got it with his writing chops. If it was Obsidian but not Sawyer heading it I would treat it with the same irreverence I would about Bethesda's fallout. 

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u/mysterpixel 5h ago

They also got back Tim Cain who was the lead on the first Fallout and also worked on 2.

Obviously that's not an automatic guarantee it's going to be good but if they've got both the guy who led New Vegas and the guy who did the originals (on which NV heavily drew compared to Bethesda) then they are almost certainly going to be striving for the same style.

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u/ColdCruise 3h ago edited 3h ago

This isn't true. Four of the five founders are still at Obsidian. Josh Sawyer, director of New Vegas, is also still there.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obsidian_Entertainment?wprov=sfla1

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u/Gebghis 3h ago

No, two are, Tim Cain and Boyarsky didn't work on New Vegas, they're just with Obsidian. Only Sawyer and Gonzalez are still there as people that actively shaped New Vegas. Only about 1/7 of the New Vegas team is still at Obsidian

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u/ColdCruise 3h ago

Obsidian was founded by Feargas Urquhart, Chris Avellone, Chris Parker, Darren Monahan, and Chris Jones. All of them except Avellone are still at Obsidian. 4 of the 5 founders remain.