In 2019, there was talk about how sharding wouldn’t work in Classic, due to things like Rexxar and his cross zone patrol.

This is why we got the ‘layering’ we know in Classic.

Does anyone know if they’ve changed the patrol of Rexxar? Or any kind of changes to handle the fact that we now have sharding?

Link - https://www.wowhead.com/classic/news/blizzard-clears-up-layering-tech-misconceptions-in-classic-wow-294589

I shat my pants when i saw that.

Does anyone know where I can find the world record for dungeon leveling in a five man?

I've been trying for hours to find a world record but I only see mage AoE grinding and hunters solo questing.

With Forever fast approaching and a lot of people on this sub annoyed they can't power level to 60 in dungeons so they can start raid logging it got me wondering

I played Classic 2019 until level 60 but returned to retail for endgame as I preferred complex mechanics, individual responsibility and intense progression.

I loved the 1-59 journey, it's why WoW is the GOAT and what retail has lost, but I could never understand why a bunch of the battlenet friends I made stuck with classic raiding for so long over Retail.

Was curious what people here have to say. Hoping I can learn to enjoy it as much in Forever but I'll likely just reroll an alt on the opposite faction.

If you're going to race to 60 for endgame, why not just play retail? What does Classic endgame have over Retail endgame for you?

Hello walking with my father (pictured) in storm wind and there is a suspended very heavy load across a street with no adequate signage or barriers to restrict thoroughfare. This was in the dwarf quarter

My father (pictured) is a former work health and safety inspector and this is not up to code

Posted for visibility

I've ran BRD about 4 times so far and it's always the same. I queue up as DPS, get invited to a group with multiple warriors who are lvl 60 or close to it.

They ask: "Can you tank?"

I say: "Probably not - I doubt I can hold aggro over you guys. Would one of you be willing to?"

They say: "No, I'm DPS"

I say: "Alright I'll try, but it probably won't go well."

We fight 3 mobs. I'm tanking ineffectively - the mobs are attacking the other warriors. The healer needs to heal all of us. Healer is oom after every mob. Someone says "Wait are you tanking garbageeater?". It leads to some argument. Either someone rage quits, we accept we can't continue after the first boss, or one of the other lvl 60 warrior reluctantly agrees to tank and everything goes well.

Is the group finder inaccurate that BRD is for lvl 52s? Do I just need to get better at tanking? Bad luck? Or is this my new life now that I'm grouping with lvl 60s?

Where can I find this Jinx Clothing Company world of Warcraft shirt, it’s sooo cute and I can’t find it anywhere!! It’s a night elf women dancing in frames in case you can’t tell.

Ahoi, me again 👋

Did you guys know there are rare spawns (or at least one), that can be friendly? To alliance players at least, since he is part of the wildhammer clan.

Very interesting stuff! I found out today myself - you never stop learning in this world. ❤️

A wonderful weekend gamers!
classic Toni out

The announcement for forever was warranted but the release date is way too sudden. The blizzcon weekend was supposed to be exciting, but instead the sudden release date of Forever actively killed TBC, only 3 weeks into one of the most exciting patches of the entire franchise. It took less than 2 weeks for guilds to disband because, "what's the point?" This all feels really bad..and this era is by the darkest that I've ever seen the game become

Edit: I just want to say that this has been a huge boost to my reddit score and your saltiness has been a huge help. Thank you all <3

I only play Horde, I’m not sure why, but I think with Forever I’m going to move to Alliance. It just feels so unfamiliar to me but in a bad way, but I feel like after thousands of hours I should probably try the other half of the game.

Do you guys play both?

"Is there any wonder why the ogres are part of the Horde no longer?"

Any tips or advice for a completely new player? I decided to start off on classic as a troll mage

I'm a 20 year old WoW veteran and after the announcement of Forever I decided to sub for one month, see where my characters are and try Classic as well:

1. Retail is EZ mode, press highlighted buttons and you will progress. Absolutely no challenge, story is ass.
   
2. Classic - rolled a Priest - cannot finish the quest in Murloc camp in Elvyn Forest, cannot take on more than 2 mobs of my level.

This is all with SoD 150% experience boost. I'm not saying this is bad, but when Preach started BSing today how "it was always easy!" - no bro, it wasn't. You are a tryhard with a dedicated group of friends - sure, it's easy. Otherwise - get ready for pain.

Anyone here from classic era, server : frostwhisper (EU), guild : Fallen Heroes.

It is its own game with its own client, and it already has its own sub. Can this sub go back to being about classic?

Every time I criticize something from the game everyone tells me, "it's not classic, go back to era"

Fine then, get your not classic game out of the classic wow subreddit.

Edit: All of the downvotes are evidence that this sub has been brigaded by retail players. I'm advocating for the "classic+" game mode to be more classic and I get downvoted for it in the classic wow sub.

So the classic community is just going to get erased and swallowed up by this retail- community. That's so sad.

WITH trading, mailing, grouping, chatting (and such) restrictions of course. (EDIT for people who can't read more than a reddit title). So people can TRY the game, see if they LIKE it and want more of it for the real experience.

Vanilla+TBC OG here, I think we can all decently agree that Vanilla WoW content was very probably a fairly profitable investment for Blizzard back from 2004 until today, right ?

It's been 84 years I haven't been involved in WoW content and forums etc.. so it's probably something people have been talking about for a while already, cool!

I think Free to Play Vanilla content would be a great free introducing motivation factor for newcomers and refraining returner dads and moms. Classic and Forever have plenty of content people will enjoy and be happy to keep enjoying once they have reached lvl 60.
Why not offering people to push their character to subbed content later on, Classic TBC+, SoD, Retail, so they can enjoy the entire catalog Blizzards now have with the character they spent time on ? (Yes, hence they accept their spells and talents to change in different versions, this is an RPG environment, we're all connected-brains players, we should be able to survive this)

I think looking at FFXIV history and reversed success compared to Retail WoW is better than words from me to elaborate on why this would not be a bad idea, if not a great one for both players and Blizzard.
This simple idea forced Square Enix to provide new GREAT content for their player base in order to retain them over the years, nobody can ignore that. Players have responded en masse and with unprecedented loyalty to the game, for more than a decade now.
Personnaly I like quality content, I like feeling that devs have thought and worked hard to stay true to the original vision that made me and millions of other people fall in love with the game.
Unlike Retail, more like Forever (congrats to this team's devs).

Anticipation note for whoever think this would be a good argument against: botters bot whatever the cost, as long as simple maths of "income vs subscription fee" is positive. This is a different topic, for a different conversation, needing different solutions!

Cheers!

EDIT / TLDR**:** Free to play with Hard Restrictions on account economy. Look at how FFXIV business model and its free accounts restrictions work in order to have an educated position on this topic. I think this is at the very least debatable that WoW could do great with something similar.
Thanks to the people that took time to read before commenting and answered nicely, I see you!

EDIT 2: For those who never tried it and say this business model would bring only bad people to WoW, the community on FFXIV is very positive and welcoming to newcomers because the game encourages that. Not in a candid and childish way, but because it's grounded to the game design around dungeons, mentor awards etc ... very cool design from the devs, definitely feels like what Forever devs are trying to bring to WoW from what they say and explain in their podcasts, I'm all in for it, bringin back life and good vibes to WoW.

EDIT 3: I'm subbed to WoW as I am to FFXIV too, have no issue with subscription business model, very happy to do so and keep paying it, that is not the point of this post.

You just spam quests just like any other mmo (aion or rift), only difference being wow combat is slooooow, really slow. And there’s a shit ton of running around from npc to npc. I gave the whole ”reading all quest dialogue to get immersed” a chance for once since people praise wow’s writing, 90% of it was “go here kill x”. Does it get better ? Am I missing something ?

Frost Trap costs almost no mana, and it's a somewhat unique ability in the sense that players can help themselves but choosing to run through it. Your tank, your healer, your DPS, they can see the Frost Trap on the ground. They don't need to be told it's there, especially if the hunter starts to use it consistently.

So I'm asking, how often do you see hunters using Frost Trap frequently in dungeons?

Also if the answer is that you don't see hunters do this happen why might that be the case?

It feels like they can just eat my stunlock- hoj, heal to full and crank me. This is before they even need tools like bop, bubble, LoH etc.

Is this just a losing matchup? Does Forever include any changes that shift this matchup one way or the other?

The old sky box had a far better graphic style and more cohesive fidelity and conveyed a better emotional feeling than the new skybox which just looks like any other modern game to me. The old skybox felt distinctly warcraft like. The colouration is more blocky and bold and the way the mountains silhouette create a starkness.