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Hated Tropes Things meant to be progressive just end up being incredibly offensive

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What If - In one of the comics Miles becomes Thor, and it's full of stereotypes about black people such as the Mjolnir having graffiti on it and the infamous "by Odin's fade"

Emilia Perez - Everything about the movie

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u/chudazoid_ 12h ago

Whats weird is that not only is latinx not phonetic to spanish in any way, but adding an e to the end of gendered words is already the accepted way to make them gender neutral

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u/Rarte96 11h ago edited 8h ago

Well i wouldnt say accepted, most people dont use it, but them again nonbinary people are not common here and the ones who would want to use the E are even less common

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u/SignalScientist2817 8h ago

it's not that they're not common, it's that our language is gendered (male and female words), so trying to include a "neutral" gender to the mix would need to add a whole new dictionary. Some people don't use gender neutral words not because they're bigots, it just sounds weird to them.

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u/interwebz_2021 7h ago

People don't seem to understand that the gender of a word doesn't necessarily convey the typical gender attributes/associations on that word. I mean, "dress" is "vestido" (masculine) and "necktie" is "corbata" (feminine). So maybe we non-Spanish-speaking lefties should have kept our noses out of it. I hope never to hear "Latinx" again; I denounce and correct it when I do, and I sure hope we never make this kind of mistake again.

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u/RudeJeweler4 1h ago

Why do they use the term “masculine” and “feminine” for these words if they don’t correlate to the concepts of masculinity and femininity?

Is it a case of it being hard to describe/translate the dichotomy that these words fit into, so they just landed on “masculine” and “feminine” as the closest reasonable replacement?

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u/Mr_Halitosis 48m ago

They found something everyone accepted as being binary a long, long time ago and ran with it.

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u/Wild_Marker 11h ago

Yeah that's the thing, we already have our own way of doing that.

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u/temporarilyHere3 10h ago

I never kept up studying Spanish after school and never learned this in school. Cool to learn something new like this. So does a word like amigo becomes amige?

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u/SmartAlec105 9h ago

amige

How am I supposed to know if you're gay?

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u/xkise 9h ago

In portuguese, no.

We use amigo (o generally are for masculine) and amiga (a for feminine) and that's it.

Amigue would be OUR performatives trying the same "latinx"

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u/Pale_Dark_656 11h ago

But knowing that would require them to talk to native Spanish speakers and *gasp* listen to what they say, and we can't have that.

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u/SlavojVivec 2h ago

The -x suffix is not meant to be phonetic. It's supposed to be a reference to crossing out the gender suffix on political posters with an 'x', and is still pronounced -e.

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u/DullBlade0 1h ago

What?

Who came up with all this stuff?

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u/Deer-in-Motion 12h ago edited 12h ago

Exactly! When I first saw it I wondered just how to pronounce it. You can't. I'm a white liberal and I'm not going to dictate to others how to use their own language.

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u/fresh-dork 9h ago

these people don't even speak spanish

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u/xUnderoath 11h ago

Hard to say it's "accepted" anywhere except liberal universities

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u/eggosh 10h ago

Nah, universities are still using Latinx. Latine was coined by actual queer hispanic people in latin america but it's not catching on in US schools despite latinos telling them how much Latinx sucks.

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u/xUnderoath 10h ago

Go to Latin America and speak to anyone on the street using the suffix -e and they'll all look at you crazy.

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u/eggosh 10h ago

That's irrelevant to my comment, I'm just saying it's the preferred term by actual queer people in Latin America. If I use specialized lingo outside of the group that uses it ofc people will look like I'm crazy.

You can dislike the word, but at least be honest about why, because latine isn't a "liberal university" thing, and it wasn't invented by white English speakers either.

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u/xUnderoath 10h ago

Fair. I amend my original statement to include liberal universities and the marginalized groups that coined its usage themselves. Outside of their closed circle, no one uses these words in daily speak.