If you're buying cars that die at 70k miles, you're either buying the wrong cars or don't take care of them. With the modern technology in engines, they don't die that fast anymore.
GM's 6.2L L87 is notoriously failure-prone. There's literally a recall covering potential catastrophic engine failure that affected almost 600k vehicles.
Sure. 600k vehicles. But one, it's a recall so you get your engine fixed/replaced FOR FREE. That means your car still lasts longer than 70k miles. Secondly, that's 600k out of millions of cars produced every year.
You're also saying that an engine that is known to catastrophically fail, but gets replaced under warranty somehow negates that initial catastrophic failure (I'm not 100% sure you understand what that phrase means).
You're confusing repairability with reliability. Nobody wants their fucking 90-125k SUV recalled. Losing your primary driver or family vehicle for several days to a week or more is a pretty big issue for most families. It's not an oil change, it's not an oopsy I scratched the paint, it's a fucking engine swap (and a post production engine swap at that). I've actually been through this before, and it took FOURTEEN service appointments to make it right.
Just because the cost is nothing, doesn't mean there isn't any inconvenience. If you're paying that much money for a top trim SUV, I don't think 'not wanting any recalls' is a high bar.
I think you're moving them. It's pretty inconvenient for all parties if I have to give up my car for a week so they can fix an issue that never should have been there. And God forbid the engine dies if you're a few hours away from home.
I’ll give some more examples, Cummins switched the push rod design in 2019 and it’s still a massive issue because of the poor design. Toyotas newest V6 has issues with the oil paths clogging because they are so small.
Theres a big change in the auto industry with engine design in the past 6 years. Thinner oils are blamed for bad engineering. This is happening to keep up with the latest CARB requirements. Auto industry isn’t going to make separate cars just to sell in CA so they all are held to their standards
You are probably talking about 1% of all engines created during that period and two manufacturers GM and Toyota. Cars are more reliable and last longer than they ever have.
You can check NHTSA, there were a few bad years across the board for all manufacturers in the last 20 years but the last 5 have been really bad. 1% failure rate is terrible in manufacturing. GM 6.2 has a 3% which is extremely uncommon. A 1 in 33 chance to have an engine grenade it’s self off the lot is insane. Ford the past few years is notorious for updates bricking trucks. This was not an issue 10 years ago
Many people think that 100k miles is too much for a used car. For some of those cars, it is, for others, the car isn't even at its halfway point. Makes it hard to tell.
Not even remotely true. 100k used to be a lot of miles on a car. Tons are going over 200k now. If you think cars are shit now, you’re just buying shit cars
It's just not true. Cars built in 2025 are on average expected to stay on the road until 160,000 miles, a new record. This number has been steadily rising for two decades.
At same time, cars are safer and more efficient then ever. The average new car sold in the US has a 50k mile warranty, and will hold some residual value for 12-13 years.
If you buy 2.0l with 8 turbos because you like the horsepower number then sure, they are shit but anything sensible is absolutely reliable. I've seen 1.0 TSI putting up 700k+ km numbers, just dont abuse them and maintain your fucking cars
Or still buying GM. I work in construction so we put about 20000 miles on our trucks a year. Guess which guys always have their trucks right away in the shop.
Again, you're buying the wrong car or not taking care of them. If you want to take a chance on a Nissan with notoriously bad transmission problems...that's a you problem.
Oh, I’m happy with my vehicles. I had a Nissan Rogue in the past and the trans blew. No fault of mine, it was just a crappy vehicle. Recall came out shortly after it happened.
Hmmmm yes they do! Wet belts, shitty timing chains, tensioners, shitty turbos and people being stupid means modern cars need a lot more work than 2000-2010 ish cars. Even my old landy needs less work than modern cars.
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u/djfishfingers 17d ago
If you're buying cars that die at 70k miles, you're either buying the wrong cars or don't take care of them. With the modern technology in engines, they don't die that fast anymore.